[QUOTE=Xyzzy;389166]It would be easy to say that weight loss means that we are doing well, but we think that repeated losses and gains are hard on the body, so our (newer?) metric for success is a stable long-term weight loss.


:mike:[/QUOTE]


agreed, have you considered joining or looking at the [URL]http://nwcr.ws/default.htm[/URL] which is a collection of data from people who have lost 30 or more pounds and kept it off for more than a year. Lots of good data on various paths to success. (some interesting to me are that merely by limiting the number of hours of TV a person watches per week can have a dramatic impact on long-term weight loss and walking every day is just as good a predictor of successful weight loss as running.)

I also recommend the book Diet Cults by Matt Fitzgerald (right up until the last chapter where he ignores his own science of diets advice and recommends his own special diet).

The TL;DR version of the book is that all diets are BS. And they all work to one extent or another. Find a system of eating that works for you without all the cultish trappings that go with popular diets. For example, the Paleo diet has some good things to say about the kinds of foods we overeat, but the historical narrative that Paleo dieters espouse is utter nonsense.

There are many paths up the mountain.

[QUOTE=chappy;389176]...
There are many paths up the mountain.[/QUOTE]

But it must be climbed !

[QUOTE=Xyzzy;389085]Side story: We have some sort of "food disorder". We are not sure if it is physical or mental or both, but it results in us being hungry all of the time.[/QUOTE]Often I just don't feel hungry and I forget to eat. Especially if I am in deep concentration with something or just very busy. My weight is 66.6kg and it appears to remain stable at that value whether I eat a lot or very little. Being so light I can climb hills on my bicycle like a rat up a drain pipe.

[size=1]Although I am not yet game to try and eat nothing at all for some extended period (like for many weeks or something) just to see if I can get my weight down. I suspect my weight would indeed drop but at this point in time I prefer to keep that suspicion unproven for now.[/size]

[QUOTE=retina;389212]..... My weight is 66.6kg .....[/QUOTE]

At least it isn't 666 Kg.

EDIT: That would be truly EVIL, and we know how virtuous you are.

[QUOTE=kladner;389217]At least it isn't 666 Kg.

[/QUOTE]

But it _is_ 666 hectograms.

[QUOTE=kladner;389217]At least it isn't 666 Kg.[/QUOTE]That would make riding a bicycle very difficult. Actually that would make buying a suitable bicycle very difficult.[QUOTE=kladner;389217]EDIT: That would be truly EVIL, and we know how virtuous you are.[/QUOTE]I am a true virtuoso. That is the word your meant, right?[QUOTE=ch4;389236]But it _is_ 666 hectograms.[/QUOTE]I like it when it is put it those terms.

We are all adults here, you can say Hell-ograms. The devil is in the details.

[QUOTE=chappy;389238]We are all adults here, you can say Hell-ograms. The devil is in the details.[/QUOTE]

:tu:

Our esteemed leader once again shares a thoughtful and enlightening (and personal) post, one that just might get me back on a bicycle. Thanks, Mike!

[QUOTE=chappy;389238]We are all adults here ...[/QUOTE]Sometimes I am not so sure about that. Perhaps in the physical sense only that that could be true.

[QUOTE=retina;389248]Sometimes I am not so sure about that. Perhaps in the physical sense only that that could be true.[/QUOTE]

When I joined, I was not (by any legal sense in my country of residence). By many other measures I currently am not.

All this talk about Hell-ograms and Kill-ograms makes me certain we're all adults here -
mersenne-forumers say the Darn-dest things.

As card-carrying human adults, we have the best playground on the internet.