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[QUOTE=R.D. Silverman;192227]I can provide lattice siever code. GGNFS is available......
You once used my (line) siever code before switching to CWI. Allow me to ask: how will you do 10,269- without participants? This number is quite difficult.[/QUOTE] Sieving is in progress here, with the 16e siever. Region has width 200M-20M, of which 50M or so is complete. I'm keeping the number of cores between 200-300, with up to 100 small memory cores (1Gb) running Batalov-Dodson numbers (3, 521+ due tomorrow). -Bruce PS - page 112 looks to be full, at 30 entries; Serge reports that the first-five are already updated. Sam's also upated the progress on the wanted lists from page 111. |
[QUOTE=bdodson;192229]Sieving is in progress here, with the 16e siever. Region has width
200M-20M, of which 50M or so is complete. I'm keeping the number of cores between 200-300, with up to 100 small memory cores (1Gb) running Batalov-Dodson numbers (3, 521+ due tomorrow). -Bruce PS - page 112 looks to be full, at 30 entries; Serge reports that the first-five are already updated. Sam's also upated the progress on the wanted lists from page 111.[/QUOTE] I find it curious that over time the number of entries per page has shrunk... There used to be near 60 entries/page. |
[QUOTE=R.D. Silverman;192231]I find it curious that over time the number of entries per page has shrunk...
There used to be near 60 entries/page.[/QUOTE] Maybe due to smaller numbers? It's just the most recent 2 or 3 pages that seem to have stopped near 30 entries; back at page 90 there were 40 entries. There has already been a lot of activity on wanted and/or first-fives; so perhaps I'm premature on the page closing, due to wishful thinking. -Bruce |
[QUOTE=bdodson;192239]Maybe due to smaller numbers? It's just the most recent
2 or 3 pages that seem to have stopped near 30 entries; back at page 90 there were 40 entries. There has already been a lot of activity on wanted and/or first-fives; so perhaps I'm premature on the page closing, due to wishful thinking. -Bruce[/QUOTE] I think it driven by the need to have everything fit on an 8.5" x 11" *printed* page. Many of the numbers have to be broken into 2 lines. |
[QUOTE=R.D. Silverman;192227]I can provide lattice siever code. GGNFS is available......
You once used my (line) siever code before switching to CWI. [/QUOTE] As I stated over in the NFS@Home thread, the issue is not access to source code for a lattice siever. The issue is access to development platforms and programmers who have the time, tools, and ability to debug the porting of a common protocol to the various platforms. I have a "NFSNet" version of the siever siever running on Mac OSX. However, my largest contributor does not have a "compatible" version on 64-bit Linux. Nor do we have a version for any form of Windows. [QUOTE] Allow me to ask: how will you do 10,269- without participants? This number is quite difficult. [/QUOTE] The same way that Tom does things -- a very non-NFSNet collaboration of a few contributors (with access to many machines). I find it interesting that NFSNet is continually "faulted" because of shortcomings when competing efforts are applauded even though they have those same shortcomings. |
I think the way that I do things gets a rather different set of collaborators than NFSnet or NFS@home can manage: in particular, I imagine that the administrators of large clusters with idle time and with batch-submission interfaces are generally much happier with users running scripts which call executables to do a fairly well-defined job than with users running clients that collect their own work over the Internet.
Certainly I would not be happy to run NFS@home on the machines here at the office on which I sometimes run gnfs-lasieve4I16e. I know that my approach is much inferior in terms of getting really large amounts of compute time to fully-automated systems running on many home PCs, but the activation energy to doing it my way is much lower, and something like the way I do it is necessary to exploit the set of machines that I get to use. |
Tom,
I understand your comments about "effort", and the "constraints" on comfortable participation. My only regret is that we cannot all come together and produce a protocol that provides a common "format" for the allocation and reporting of results. This protocol would provide a uniform method of problem description, and a uniform format for the reporting the results. This reporting should be done in a manner that allows the easy extraction of a summary of the sieving without transmitting ALL of the details of the relations found. NFS@Home has effectively replaced NFSNet because Greg (at least thinks that he) has the resources to handle thousands of participants on a single central server. NFSNet did not utilize that approach because we lacked the resources and also wished to have a "fall bacK" protocol that would compensate for a failure at any server node within the system. |
Calling Don Leclair
Does anyone know how to reach Don?
it has been some time since I have been on contact with him. Richard |
Hi Richard,
Very nice to hear from you. I'll send you my current e-mail address in a PM. -Don |
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