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Batalov 2009-06-19 01:50

2^1157-1 c182=p91.p92 by GNFS (!)
 
Speechless..!

[FONT=Arial Narrow]5723 2,1157- c182 3031775395304168658687668034006122436307098537451179184205695859116954116590723393806112159. p92 Bos+Kleinjung gnfs
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[FONT=Arial Narrow][FONT=Verdana]Bravo! :bow:[/FONT][/FONT]

Andi47 2009-06-19 04:47

Wow!!

:shock:

:bow wave::bow wave::bow wave:

10metreh 2009-06-19 06:21

3rd largest GNFS ever! :bow wave:

fivemack 2009-06-19 13:03

Nice result! As Serge knows, they have just shot the only accessible fox in the field; the next-smallest Cunningham cofactor with SNFS difficulty above 300 is the barely-a-C192 from 2^1087-1.

CADO or msieve for the completion?

Joppe Bos is one of the people with the big PS3 cluster at LACAL; I wonder if they managed to get sieving on the Cell working. I'd have thought the limit of 200MB memory per machine (20 bytes per factor-base element) was an insuperable obstacle, but Kleinjung is exceptionally clever.

I'd expect that the PS3 cluster is currently hunting SHA-1 collisions.

jasonp 2009-06-19 13:19

[QUOTE=fivemack;178138]
CADO or msieve for the completion?
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My guess is neither; Kleinjung et. al. have their own postprocessing code.

Batalov 2009-06-19 15:40

Well, as anyone may by now have observed, their next target is a [I]gnfs-192[/I] cofactor of 2[SUP]1175[/SUP]-1

Indeed all other foxes on the road to gnfs-192 look unconvincing (0.68-0.69 ratios)

fivemack 2009-06-19 16:33

I'm just slightly surprised they didn't take 2,1087- C192 (0.5837) which is slightly smaller with a better ratio. I'm reasonably confident that 2,1099+ C182 (0.6409) is easier by GNFS than SNFS.

The C182 would be entirely plausible for mersenneforum using my i7 to solve the matrix; the C192 is probably more plausible than 2^941-1 but I think not to the point of being plausible - really needs parallel equipment for the matrix, and I don't think I can justify to myself the £2300 price, the £3/day electricity use or the kilowatt heat generation from four Infiniband-connected Shanghai boxes.

Batalov 2009-06-19 16:48

Upon better sorting of the list (and accounting for quartic unusability), these also come to mind (for the forum):
[code][strike]183 5, 383- 267.7 0.683587[/strike]
184 2, 1040+ 250.4 0.734657 "quartic"
[strike]185 2, 899- 270.6 0.683600[/strike]
186 10,750L 300 0.620000 "quartic"
188 7, 347+ 293.2 0.641093
192 2, 1087- 327.2 0.586762
192 2, 1175- 282.9 0.678521 "quartic" Bos+K gnfs
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(The difficulties are shown as if quartics were possible at that size.)

R.D. Silverman 2009-06-19 18:13

[QUOTE=Batalov;178166]Upon better sorting of the list (and accounting for quartic unusability), these also come to mind (for the forum):
[code][strike]183 5, 383- 267.7 0.683587[/strike]
184 2, 1040+ 250.4 0.734657 "quartic"
[strike]185 2, 899- 270.6 0.683600[/strike]
186 10,750L 300 0.620000 "quartic"
188 7, 347+ 293.2 0.641093
192 2, 1087- 327.2 0.586762
192 2, 1175- 282.9 0.678521 "quartic" Bos+K gnfs
[/code]
(The difficulties are shown as if quartics were possible at that size.)[/QUOTE]

Why discard 2,899-? Easier by SNFS?

There are also 2,2110M C191, 2,2158M C193, 2,2090M C191 or slightly more
ambitious, 2,1196+ C197

Andi47 2009-06-19 19:21

[QUOTE=fivemack;178165] the C192 is probably more plausible than 2^941-1 but I think not to the point of being plausible - really needs parallel equipment for the matrix, and I don't think I can justify to myself the £2300 price, the £3/day electricity use or the kilowatt heat generation from four Infiniband-connected Shanghai boxes.[/QUOTE]

It would be interesting how T.Rex's [URL="http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=177129&postcount=364"]8-core Nehalem Rocket[/URL] scales for huge NFS postprocessing...

akruppa 2009-06-22 20:17

Here are some details about the factorization Joppe sent me:

[QUOTE="Joppe Bos"]
Hi Alex,

Here some details (partially provided by Thorsten).

Polynomial selection was done by Thorsten:
"According to the log files and other files in that directory I ran one part of the polynomial selection for less than 5 month on one core and another part for 1.5 month on 1-6 cores on a different machine."
The polynomial used is:

[CODE]
#skewness 151223529.05 norm 3.38e+25 alpha -8.36 Murphy_E 7.24e-14
X5 319200
X4 154373575683904
X3 -23186446035652343324670
X2 -2829704335434860171409679177683
X1 303706077386585938118284771853918274616
X0 -3824969268526247936633040832393600441093924020
Y1 50201288567936759
Y0 -165897258160957887730516436168795993
M 26187125732864623607010592600170521548519803304553527794057061364034844248129814228791611244460413159396080085931821815721579483336211552879481069712975214746318048280605646526340956
0 64000000 3.82 34 99
0 128000000 3.68 34 99
[/CODE]

I did the sieving using the Greedy cluster (see [url]http://greedy.epfl.ch?pageLang=en[/url]). This took approximately 5-6 weeks (running nighttime only), the number of cores I got varied a lot and we used the relatively slow Windows binary.

Thorsten ran the matrix on our cluster (using a part of it) with the block Wiedemann implementation. The matrix: 32743714 * 32743202 wt 3728252442. Thorsten told me that: "It took 12 day wall clock time on up to 32*4 cores (2.66GHz Intel Xeon), but there was some idle time (<=9 days should have been possible, perhaps less)."

If you want more information just let me know.

Best regards,

Joppe
[/QUOTE]

Alex


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