5=4, ..., 35=2, 14=?
 

I don't know the answer to this one, it was brought to me by some one else. They got it from the radio.

5=4
7=17
9=25
35=2

14=?

Since 7 * 2 = 14, substitution on the left gives 17 * 35 = 14.

14 = 595.

[QUOTE=cheesehead;173612]Since 7 * 2 = 14, substitution on the left gives 17 * 35 = 14.[/QUOTE]I think that you misunderstood.

It might be better stated:
5 -> 4
7 -> 17
9 -> 25
35 -> 2

or 5 through some unknown process, function, or method yields 4, etc.

Oh, I understood the "unknown process, function, or method" part, but thought the "=" implied equivalence and commutivity.

The last 5 game scores for some insignificant local sports team?

Maybe like cricket scores on BBC? "17 for 4, 99 for 88, 2 for 102" -- it's assumed that the intended audience knows what the numbers mean (just as in an American broadcast of baseball scores), but [I]I don't![/I]

[QUOTE=cheesehead;173675]Maybe like cricket scores on BBC? "17 for 4, 99 for 88, 2 for 102" -- it's assumed that the intended audience knows what the numbers mean (just as in an American broadcast of baseball scores), but [I]I don't![/I][/QUOTE]The fist number is the number of runs gained so far in the game. The second is the number of wickets that have fallen (i.e. the number of batsmen dismissed for some reason, such as being caught). The second number is < 11, so 99 for 88 and 2 for 102 are not cricket scores. 17 for 4 means that four batsmen have already been given out and a total of 17 runs have been scored at this point. Not a very good score, to be honest.

Further information on the rules of cricket may be found here [url]http://www.colinseymour.co.uk/the-rules-of-cricket[/url]

Paul

The final score for a completed, undeclared innings (i.e. all out) is "xxx for 10", although this is normally referred to as "xxx all out" or just "xxx". There are 11 batsmen but only 10 wickets fall because the batsmen bat in pairs. One little caveat to the scoring system - batsmen retiring hurt do not count as wickets.

BTW the second day of the second Test between England and the West Indies was rained off.

[QUOTE=xilman;173677]The fist number is the number of runs gained so far in the game. The second is the number of wickets that have fallen (i.e. the number of batsmen dismissed for some reason, such as being caught). The second number is < 11, so 99 for 88 and 2 for 102 are not cricket scores. 17 for 4 means that four batsmen have already been given out and a total of 17 runs have been scored at this point. Not a very good score, to be honest.

Further information on the rules of cricket may be found here [url]http://www.colinseymour.co.uk/the-rules-of-cricket[/url]

Paul[/QUOTE]
Ahem! It depends where you live. 2 for 102 is exactly how it would be put in Australasia (at least). :smile:

[QUOTE=99.94;173743]Ahem! It depends where you live. 2 for 102 is exactly how it would be put in Australasia (at least). :smile:[/QUOTE]Thanks. I wasn't aware of that.


Paul

[quote=xilman;173769]Thanks. I wasn't aware of that.


Paul[/quote]
I'm surprised to hear of this gap in your omniscience.
I wonder what Hardy would make of it:smile:

[QUOTE=davieddy;173776]I'm surprised to hear of this gap in your omniscience.
I wonder what Hardy would make of it:smile:[/QUOTE]I've never claimed to be omniscient. I've often claimed to be working towards omniscience, a different matter entirely.


Paul

[quote=xilman;173677]The fist number[/quote]

Any relation to Ernst's wide filed camera? ;)

David

PS searched the Smilies for a wink, but couldn't find it.

[quote=xilman;173783]I've never claimed to be omniscient. I've often claimed to be working towards omniscience, a different matter entirely.


Paul[/quote]
This ambition was perhaps more realizable in the age of
Leonardo or Sir Isaac.

Your "omniscience" was supposed to be a sort of backhanded compliment :smile:

David

PS Just checking:
You did get the Hardy reference didn't you?

"Here go I my name is Jowett....etc"

[QUOTE=davieddy;173784]Any relation to Ernst's wide filed camera? ;)

David

PS searched the Smilies for a wink, but couldn't find it.[/QUOTE]Ernst's was more in the nature of a tyop, whereas I omitted a caracter from "first".:wink:

Paul

[quote=xilman;173791]Ernst's was more in the nature of a tyop, whereas I omitted a caracter from "first".:wink:

Paul[/quote]
I've visited some sites where omitting the r might be crucial.
Say no more.

[quote=davieddy;173786]
PS Just checking:
You did get the Hardy reference didn't you?

"Here go I my name is Jowett....etc"[/quote]

I phoned my erstwhile bridge partner, computer buff
and friend. (ne 1957 (note the absence of a second e)
Chemistry St Catherine's, and generally proud of his
search for omniscience) to make sure he knew what
I was referring to.

I was (secretly pleased) shocked to hear that the name Hardy
meant nothing to him, and neither did Jowett, even though I
reminded him that there is (or at least was) a road called
Jowett Walk just outside Cats.

I've tried to Google chapter and verse on the verbatim quote
without success. But my father (Exeter 1921) loved it:

Here go I my name is Jowett
There's no knowledge but I know it
I'm the Master of this College,
What I don't know is not knowledge

David

[QUOTE=davieddy;173796]I've tried to Google chapter and verse on the verbatim quote[/QUOTE]

There seem to be a lot of variations on this theme. I liked these:

[url]http://www.jowettjupiter.co.uk/jupindx.htm[/url]

[quote=wblipp;173803]There seem to be a lot of variations on this theme. I liked these:

[URL]http://www.jowettjupiter.co.uk/jupindx.htm[/URL][/quote]
Thanks. I'd got it more or less verbatim, but your link failed to
cure my nagging disatisfaction with the ditty: the repetition of
the word "knowledge". It slightly diminishes the impact of the punchline.


PS
Having pondered it again, "know" also occurs twice and the
humour lies in the reversal of the order between lines 2 and 4.

[quote=Uncwilly;173610]They got it from the radio.

5=4
7=17
9=25
35=2

14=?[/quote]Ah, HA! It was on the weekend PBS puzzle program (and I may have barely semi-remembered that when I footnoted #2), and they gave the answer this morning.

Hint 1: It is indeed a commutative relation. 4=5 just as 5=4.

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Hint 2: [spoiler]It's not a math problem.[/spoiler]

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Hint 3: [spoiler]It's not about the spelling of the numbers' names in any language, either.[/spoiler]

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Hint 4: [spoiler]It's about people.[/spoiler]

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Hint 5: [spoiler]... historically-important people.[/spoiler]

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Hint 6: [spoiler]It's U.S.-specific.[/spoiler]

[quote=xilman;173677]The fi[r]st number is the number of runs gained so far in the game. The second is the number of wickets that have fallen (i.e. the number of batsmen dismissed for some reason, such as being caught).[/quote]Hey, thanks!

[quote]17 for 4 means that four batsmen have already been given out and a total of 17 runs have been scored at this point. Not a very good score, to be honest.[/quote]Not a very good example of scores I'd heard! :blush:

[quote]Further information on the rules of cricket may be found here [URL]http://www.colinseymour.co.uk/the-rules-of-cricket[/URL][/quote]Thank you, Paul.

[quote=99.94;173743]Ahem! It depends where you live. 2 for 102 is exactly how it would be put in Australasia (at least). :smile:[/quote]But, of course! Thank you, too, all 100%.

[quote=cheesehead;173905]<snip>[/quote]

14=[spoiler]32[/spoiler].

[spoiler]They're the numbers (listed by date they first took office) of the US presidents who had the same first names. So 4=5 refers to the 4th and 5th presidents, both of whom were called James. 14=32 is Franklin Pierce and Franklin D. Roosevelt.[/spoiler]

What I don't know isn't knowledge
 

[quote=wblipp;173803]There seem to be a lot of variations on this theme. I liked these:

[URL]http://www.jowettjupiter.co.uk/jupindx.htm[/URL][/quote]

A contempory of mine came up with this:
[URL]http://ajcc.aacnjournals.org/cgi/content/full/11/3/188[/URL]
Note though that your link attributes the ditty to Henry Beeching.

I especially enjoyed the Florence Nightingale anecdote.

David

PS Before someone posts "thread hijacked", (although it follows
on from the relevant posts on cricket scores), well done 10metreh
(assuming it's right).

[QUOTE=davieddy;173796]
I was (secretly pleased) shocked to hear that the name Hardy
meant nothing to him, and neither did Jowett, even though I
reminded him that there is (or at least was) a road called
Jowett Walk just outside Cats.[/QUOTE]I've certainly heard the ditty about the Master of Balliol, though the attribution has been rather erratic.

Jowett Walk was still there a couple of years ago, though I'd take slight issue with "just outside" Catz (as we spelled it when I was up at Oxford). I know it well, because the OU astronomical society kept their telescope in Catz' squash courts and Jowett Walk was on the most direct route from Exeter when I went observing.

What next? A rendition of "The Motor Bus"?

Yes, I'm well aware that the thread has been cast adrift.


Paul

[quote=xilman;174017]
Jowett Walk was still there a couple of years ago, though I'd take slight issue with "just outside" Catz (as we spelled it when I was up at Oxford). I know it well, because the OU astronomical society kept their telescope in Catz' squash courts and Jowett Walk was on the most direct route from Exeter when I went observing.

Paul[/quote]

I know it's Catz.
It's just that when I went to Cambridge I was at St Catharine's
and the distinction in spelling was deemed critical.
Other Shiboleths (Terrible spelling):
Confusing Queen's with Queens'
Referring to New College as New
.....

Further examples welcome:smile:

David

PS Do you ever get this?

Q: What university?
A: Oxford
Q: Which college?
A: Exeter
Q; Oh. I thought you said you went to Oxford.

[QUOTE=davieddy;174058]I know it's Catz.
It's just that when I went to Cambridge I was at St Catharine's
and the distinction in spelling was deemed critical.
Other Shiboleths (Terrible spelling):
Confusing Queen's with Queens'
Referring to New College as New
.....

Further examples welcome:smile:

David[/QUOTE]Magdalen

Paul

P.S. Not the only one of which I'm aware, but we should give others a chance to contribute.

[quote=xilman;174063]Magdalen

Paul

P.S. Not the only one of which I'm aware, but we should give others a chance to contribute.[/quote]
Nice one!
The street or the college?
Which of the two Universties (that is if you have been to either of them)?
Spelling or pronunciation?

run simba run! :kitten:
:direction::direction:

[quote=davieddy;174010]
PS Before someone posts "thread hijacked", (although it follows
on from the relevant posts on cricket scores), well done 10metreh
(assuming it's right).[/quote]
Just as well I took the precaution of pre-empting you.:glare:

[QUOTE=Uncwilly;174100]run simba run! [/QUOTE]Fair enough, but as the original question has now been answered, I'd argue that th thread is fair game to be converted into a rambling discussion of apparently randomly chosen trivia.

Paul

[QUOTE=xilman;174121]... th[is] thread is fair game to be converted into a rambling discussion of apparently randomly chosen trivia.[/QUOTE]So did anyone see the game last night? The weather yesterday was quite normal for this time of year. So will the universe explode tomorrow or in 2012? How many GIMPSters does it take to replace a heatsink? Can replacing a heatsink be done "live" without losing cycles by turning the computer off? Will Mini-Me join me on my holiday to Winnerville? Why did the chicken cross the road?

[quote=Uncwilly;173610]I don't know the answer to this one, it was brought to me by some one else. They got it from the radio.
[/quote]
More to the point, why doesn't the thread starter at least
acknowledge the "solvers". Some of us have got more fun out of the
puzzle than it deserved, even if we were only buying time.

[quote=xilman;174017]
Jowett Walk was still there a couple of years ago, though I'd take slight issue with "just outside" Catz (as we spelled it when I was up at Oxford). I know it well, because the OU astronomical society kept their telescope in Catz' squash courts and Jowett Walk was on the most direct route from Exeter when I went observing.

Paul[/quote]

Just do a left and your there, although I can't remember why I
took that route so often. I'm pretty sure there weren't any girls
there in my time (at least not officially).

Anyway, your post gave me an excuse to "Google Earth", and it
looks like a toss up between Jowett Walk and Holywell St, though
the former was probably more pedestrian friendly. There were a lot
of blue squares on the map, and when you click on them you are
treated to a photo taken from that point.
Two caught my eye: one was the KA from the Broad (surprise),
and another was a particularly attractive snow scene, apparently taken
from the corner of the lawn (library) where us veterans used to
climb in at night:smile:. Pretty as the view is, I couldn't quite place it.
If you can dig it up, perhaps you can enlighten me.

David

[QUOTE=retina;174122]So did anyone see the game last night?[/quote]Nope. I hardly ever watch sporting events. How did it go?
[quote]The weather yesterday was quite normal for this time of year.[/quote]Where you are, perhaps, but it's been significantly warmer than usual for the last week or so here in the south of England. Apparently, we should be in for a rather nicer summer than we've had for the last two.
[quote]So will the universe explode tomorrow or in 2012?[/quote]I rather doubt it
[quote]How many GIMPSters does it take to replace a heatsink?[/quote]Zero or one under normal circumstances[quote]Can replacing a heatsink be done "live" without losing cycles by turning the computer off?[/quote]It depends. I've performed live heatsink replacements before now, though not recently. Back in the good old days cpus were much more robust than they tend to be today. I have replaced heatsink fans on a live system, both cpu fans and chipset fans.[quote]Will Mini-Me join me on my holiday to Winnerville?[/quote]I give up. Don't post the answer just yet, though, to give others a chance.[quote]Why did the chicken cross the road?[/QUOTE]Ah, this one I do know: [spoiler]To get to the other side[/spoiler].

Why did the hedgehog cross the road?


Paul

[QUOTE=xilman;174148]Nope. I hardly ever watch sporting events. How did it go?[/QUOTE]Well I don't know since I didn't watch it. That is why I asked, silly.[QUOTE=xilman;174148]Where you are, perhaps, but it's been significantly warmer than usual for the last week or so here in the south of England. Apparently, we should be in for a rather nicer summer than we've had for the last two.[/QUOTE]In my evil lair the temperature is controlled to my liking, I don't get out much these days.[QUOTE=xilman;174148]I rather doubt it[/QUOTE]But a friend of my brothers ex-wife's mother told me it would, so it must be true. She wouldn't lie.[QUOTE=xilman;174148]Zero or one under normal circumstances[/QUOTE]But these are not normal times. We got global warming now.[QUOTE=xilman;174148]It depends. I've performed live heatsink replacements before now, though not recently. Back in the good old days cpus were much more robust than they tend to be today. I have replaced heatsink fans on a live system, both cpu fans and chipset fans.[/QUOTE]I once tried it in my laptop, but the case cannot be removed with the power plug or battery connected. So I suppose I should now open it and run it naked 24/7 just in case I need to do some emergency surgery.[QUOTE=xilman;174148]I give up. Don't post the answer just yet, though, to give others a chance.[/QUOTE][spoiler]Haha, no spoiler here. Now you feel stupid for revealing it don't you?![/spoiler][QUOTE=xilman;174148]Ah, this one I do know: [spoiler]To get to the other side[/spoiler].[/QUOTE]You are a smart person.[QUOTE=xilman;174148]Why did the hedgehog cross the road?[/QUOTE]Erm, [spoiler]to see it's flat-mate[/spoiler]?

[QUOTE=cheesehead;173905]Ah, HA! It was on the weekend PBS puzzle program (and I may have barely semi-remembered that when I footnoted #2), and they [COLOR="Magenta"]gave the answer this morning[/COLOR].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=10metreh;173912]14=[spoiler]32[/spoiler].

[spoiler]They're the numbers[/spoiler][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=daviddy]More to the point, why doesn't the thread starter at least
acknowledge the "solvers". Some of us have got more fun out of the
puzzle than it deserved, even if we were only buying time. [/QUOTE]I would have ack, except that, they didn't solve it, I could have done the same as they if I hadn't been AFT. This has been such a big fest of duff (not to be confused with Festivus), one could hardly find a kernal of corn.

How about them Rockets?

Correction:

[quote=cheesehead;173905]It was on the weekend PBS[/quote]NPR (National Public Radio), rather [quote]puzzle program[/quote]

[quote=davieddy;173796]I phoned my erstwhile bridge partner, computer buff and friend. (ne 1957 (note the absence of a second e)
Chemistry St Catherine's, and generally proud of his
search for omniscience) to make sure he knew what
I was referring to.

I was (secretly pleased) shocked to hear that the name Hardy
meant nothing to him, and neither did Jowett, even though I
reminded him that there is (or at least was) a road called
Jowett Walk just outside Cats.

David[/quote]

OTOH, he may well have been in sarcastic mode.

He referred to quiz machines in pubs as "cash points".
He routinely played them till he won the £10, then went on to
a different pub. He claims to have garnered £3000 (tax free)
in a year this way.

You might well say "Get a Life"

David

[QUOTE=Uncwilly;174219]How about them Rockets?[/QUOTE]They seem to be coming along slowly but surely.

[url]http://www.physorg.com/news162052761.html[/url]

Will these be putting men on the moon in 2020?

[size=1][color=#b0b0b0]Oh, wait, you put a capital "R", is that something different?[/color][/size]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncwilly
They got it from the radio.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncwilly
How about them Rockets?

[QUOTE=retina;174373]They seem to be coming along slowly but surely.
Oh, wait, you put a capital "R", is that something different?[/QUOTE]

After 75 years, they're still kicking up a storm.

(But I think their name has two "t"s.)