[QUOTE=russkris;170217]I just want to add again.
That the Vault has been created to add some more fun to DC crunching, it has never been said it was going or wanted to replace the awesome stats site, which I use like Master Bok's.

Alot of people dont like the way the scoring works, but it works, and it is in place now, and to redo it means to much work for Nanobot. So I hope everyone understands.

I get excited when there is so much interest in the DC-Vault. I dont perfer any project over any other project, all projects have there place.

Sorry I just had to add that[/QUOTE]

Thanks rusty. I once had something similar to the vault as you know and it was somewhat of a pain to maintain. I too grew a little bored and have recently looked to alternate challenges, like getting all the badges at WCG and at Yoyo, so it's not that much different than scoring points for the vault in some ways. As an aside, I'm not sure how much Nano needs to maintain his scripts, but given most all of the projects you maintain, I do stats for, I could very simply generate some consistent data for you all to parse instead of going to every project.. If you wish, any kind of format too. (I already do scripts for DPC and TA amongst others to pull data for just their own teams.. )

But we digress..

Back on topic, I should have the site and forum up and running in the morning.

Bok

[quote=russkris;170216]OK..............

Hmmmm, yeah, thats cool.... Well it not immediately upon registration BUT.. Hmmm Thinking.

I personally dont have a problem[/quote]
Hang in there, once the new Server and Forum gets up, there maybe a way, no, I know Bok will find away to interface the forum registration values into the database if the user has returned any work :smile:
Or something like that... it's all magic I swear :grin:

[QUOTE=Bok;170232] I'm not sure how much Nano needs to maintain his scripts, but given most all of the projects you maintain, I do stats for, I could very simply generate some consistent data for you all to parse instead of going to every project.. If you wish, any kind of format too. (I already do scripts for DPC and TA amongst others to pull data for just their own teams.. )
[/QUOTE]


This would be something you would have to talk with Nano about, but I am sure he will say no.. Nice of you offer, but we like getting them from the projects.

I assume that DC-Vault has the project admins permission to grab the stats files?

[B]IronBits[/B], Let me know what you guys come up with, but seeing as AMDave has a good handle of team creation etc. I cant see a problem, BUT having said that I will have to put it to the DC crunchers.
[B]
Razor_FX_II[/B] - We all change our minds

Just wondering if anyone is popping over to the Vault Forum.

I would like some info on a post in the NPLB thread

[QUOTE=Wabbit98 on the DC-Vault Forum]NPLB can be run in the background when BOINC is running and have a limited affect on both programs.

Ni

[URL="http://www.team-ninja.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=357086&postcount=13"][SIZE="4"]HERE[/SIZE][/URL][/QUOTE]

This will be very, very interesting to the DC crunchers

Somehow I missed about 20-30 posts in the forum over a period of hours. My head is spinning at the moment.

I just don't have time to read all of the posts as I'm still catching up on admin stuff from the rally. Have you guys just decided to move this entire forum to another location? Would it have been good to make sure I knew about it first? lol

Have you all considered how many different links would need to be redirected?

Yep, stats pack rat I am. I wonder what that makes Karsten? :-) Anyway, I mention that because if we are going to move to a different location, we do need to have most everything go with it.

But before we make the official decision to move, I have a simple question: Why?

Perhaps it has been answered but I didn't catch it through all of the hoopla. This has happened just a little bit TOO fast for my tastes.

David, I've reserved some large ranges for the servers and I'll send you more files shortly.


Thank you,
Gary

I responded, but I think some veterans should pop in and weigh in on that post.

I think we have added two new members and one new team so far today.

[B]Gary[/B], the assumption has always been that everything would get consolidated to one location and preparations are underway to meet this projects needs, for anything that you can think of now and in the foreseeable future.

To have control over your projects own destiny, on a new Server with lots of storage, ram, speedy processors, a web site you can design and modify to fit your every need, a forum you can control and shape in any way you see fit and where you can control the vertical and the horizontal.

This is the direction this project needs to be going in. To stand on it's own two feet.
It's all being handed to you on a silver platter, everyone is working hard to help you get there, what's not to want or like?
Most everyone that has posted or commented on it so far has all been favorable, why the cold feet?

Except for the forums, everything is located right here in my computer room, currently spread over two servers.

I am consolidating you to one dedicated server and giving you the Forum software, which Bok says he can migrate most of what's here now to the new Forum.

Sit back, let it happen, relax, go along for the ride, you will like the final destination. :smile:

[quote=russkris;170248]Just wondering if anyone is popping over to the Vault Forum.

I would like some info on a post in the NPLB thread



This will be very, very interesting to the DC crunchers[/quote]
Hmm...that's odd. I have to wonder if he's slightly misunderstanding what he's seeing; because LLRnet can by no means do magic with the CPU's obviously limited resources. All it can do is let the OS's task scheduler share the CPU's resources among mulitple programs; in this case, probably what's happening is that LLRnet is using half of the CPU and BOINC is using the other half.

It's possible that he's seeing double due to hyperthreading. If that's the case, then task manager will show both LLRnet and BOINC to be each using an entire CPU at 100%. However, in reality each will be running at about 55%-60% of normal speed. (Note: there *is* a 5-10% gain in that, though a similar effect can be obtained by running BOINC with 2 threads.)

That is, unless Wabbit98 is considering a 50/50 sharing of the CPU to be "limited effects"...

[quote=gd_barnes;170251]Somehow I missed about 20-30 posts in the forum over a period of hours. My head is spinning at the moment.

I just don't have time to read all of the posts as I'm still catching up on admin stuff from the rally. Have you guys just decided to move this entire forum to another location? Would it have been good to make sure I knew about it first? lol

Have you all considered how many different links would need to be redirected?

Yep, stats pack rat I am. I wonder what that makes Karsten? :-) Anyway, I mention that because if we are going to move to a different location, we do need to have most everything go with it.

But before we make the official decision to move, I have a simple question: Why?

Perhaps it has been answered but I didn't catch it through all of the hoopla. This has happened just a little bit TOO fast for my tastes.

David, I've reserved some large ranges for the servers and I'll send you more files shortly.


Thank you,
Gary[/quote]
Okay, I'll condense what has went on within the last few days a bit:

First of all, IronBits offered to register us a domain name for our planned website. After some brief sharing of opinions he registered [URL="http://www.noprimeleftbehind.net"]www.noprimeleftbehind.net[/URL]. He offered to donate a server to run the site on, as well as a spare vBulletin (forum software, like what mersenneforum runs on) license that he had sitting around. A number of users chimed in; some key points in the exchange are [URL="http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=170052&postcount=65"]here[/URL] and [URL="http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=170101&postcount=74"]here[/URL]. The upshot of the whole thing is that a general consensus has been reached saying that this project is starting to get a little big for just one subforum, and could really benefit from having a forum of its own. So, we've decided to proceed with setting up a forum on the new web site. [b]We *are* going to be copying all the old posts over to the new forum, so nothing will be lost. :smile:[/b]. In addition, Xyzzy is going to leave NPLB's place on mersenneforum.org's home page occupied for us, but now as a link that redirects to our new forum.

The plan is for Conjectures 'R Us to remain here at mersenneforum (though of course with the requisite links to it on the new NPLB forum, also) since it's somewhat smaller and can benefit from the connection to a well-known higher-math-folks hangout.

I agree things are moving VERY quickly, and it can indeed be hard to keep track of unless you've been watching the forum all day as the discussion went down. :smile: If there's anything about this that isn't quite clear, feel free to contact me on Google Talk--I should be on for at least the next hour or so, and you appear to be online right now, too.

Max :smile:

Works for me. lol

I saw all of the discussion about a new web page, which I though was great. I missed the part about a new forum.

I would only be getting in the way to object in any manner. Things are moving extremely fast. Actually, I have no objection that I can think of right off since everything will be redirected and copied over.

WOW! What a group! :smile:

I have to agree with David and Max. This project is getting big enough to stand on its own. Even xyzzy stated that yesterday I believe. It will give you all the flexability you could ever want. You could set your own limits on number of PM's, sizes of posts, number of posts, etc. It will also allow us to automate whatever we want via the website , like team setup, user setup etc.

I, for one, am willing to work overtime to re-connect any busted links and fix things that may get messed up. The benefits of this are endless.


Edited: Geez, I have to learn to type faster. I was typing my response to your WHY? and before I get done, you agree.
Two finger typing has sufficed for 64 years. I guess it's just not good enuf.

Max did a little more explaining by Google chat. Actually, having you state what kind of flexibility it will allow is quite exciting. VERY cool! :smile:

I have suggested that Max oversee the creation of a web page or assign someone to oversee it.

Mini, can you coordinate with David and/or Max on getting a web page designed? Thanks for offering your expertise there.


Gary

Question for the designers of the website. Is there a lot involved in having a chat area? No big deal, but it might make it easier to converse with newbies or even amongst ourselves. Nothing fancy, just one thread would suffice. I find it hard at times to follow conversations on different threads. (It's an old age thing). :whistle:

[quote][B]We *are* going to be copying all the old posts over to the new forum, so nothing will be lost. :smile:[/B]. In addition, Xyzzy is going to leave NPLB's place on mersenneforum.org's home page occupied for us, but now as a link that redirects to our new forum.[/quote]We were thinking of putting a redirect as a subforum under "Conjectures 'R Us" or maybe under "Open Projects". Home page real estate is pretty valuable and it is too crowded as it is. A second level forum does not take up any top level real estate. If your top level link is gone that (possibly) leaves room for another upstart project to get some exposure.

While we are sure that a genius somewhere can extract the old messages, we will be "working" at various summer camps and stuff until September so not much is going to happen until at least then. We will be gone at least 18 days in May, and that is a slow month.

:camping:

We could, of course, provide a copy of the database for a genius to work on, but until we understand what is going on we feel a bit uncomfortable with that data being "out there". And, as you all know, it is going to take a while for us to understand what is going on because the only assets we have are insanely good looks, a positive attitude, good manners and a third grade education. (It has worked okay for us so far!)

You might have better luck screen scraping the forum.

We have a link to the GNU Free Documentation License on the bottom of every page, so we want you to have the right to copy data or whatever, but we are not interested in doing a lot of work and we do not feel comfortable working with the database when we have very little time to evaluate what we are doing.

Things move at a glacial pace around here. Some might say that is a good thing.

:soapbox:

[quote=MyDogBuster;170281]Question for the designers of the website. Is there a lot involved in having a chat area? No big deal, but it might make it easier to converse with newbies or even amongst ourselves. Nothing fancy, just one thread would suffice. I find it hard at times to follow conversations on different threads. (It's an old age thing). :whistle:[/quote]

Sounds like the chat thing Primegrid has at the bottom of their forum. Sounds like a good idea. Especially when you need a quick question answered that probably doesn't need it's own thread.

[QUOTE=MyDogBuster;170281]Question for the designers of the website. Is there a lot involved in having a chat area? No big deal, but it might make it easier to converse with newbies or even amongst ourselves. Nothing fancy, just one thread would suffice. I find it hard at times to follow conversations on different threads. (It's an old age thing). :whistle:[/QUOTE]
Yes, I was thinking the exact same thing. As mentioned in my earlier post about the new forum's structure, there will be a "Lounge" forum under the Other Stuff category for people to talk about anything they want. :smile:

Unless, that is, I'm misunderstanding your post and what you had in mind was something like gamer007 suggested? If so, we can probably do that as well.

I was referring to what gamer007 described. What you type, others who are present can see instantly and respond. Could probably use the lounge too. :smile:

[quote=Xyzzy;170282]We were thinking of putting a redirect as a subforum under "Conjectures 'R Us" or maybe under "Open Projects". Home page real estate is pretty valuable and it is too crowded as it is. A second level forum does not take up any top level real estate. If your top level link is gone that (possibly) leaves room for another upstart project to get some exposure.[/quote]
Okay, that sounds good. Having it under Conjectures 'R Us would probably be better than Open Projects (which would almost be somewhat of a regression :smile:) because of the connection between the two projects.

The main reason why I was thinking a redirect would be nice is for convenience--so that users who actively follow both forums can easily get to one from the other, and also to maintain the connection between NPLB and CRUS. Having the redirect to NPLB as a subforum under CRUS should accomplish this nicely. :smile:

[quote]While we are sure that a genius somewhere can extract the old messages, we will be "working" at various summer camps and stuff until September so not much is going to happen until at least then. We will be gone at least 18 days in May, and that is a slow month.

:camping:

We could, of course, provide a copy of the database for a genius to work on, but until we understand what is going on we feel a bit uncomfortable with that data being "out there". And, as you all know, it is going to take a while for us to understand what is going on because the only assets we have are insanely good looks, a positive attitude, good manners and a third grade education. (It has worked okay for us so far!)[/quote]
Well, you're in luck: from what I gather (not being much of an expert in SQL, mind you), it looks like Bok's got a pretty easy sequence of commands for you to run (which he's tested on the Free-DC forum) that should export all the NPLB subforum data to file rather quickly:

create table temp
(forumid int(10),postid int(10),threadid int(10),username varchar(100),userid int(10),title varchar(250),pagetext mediumtext)

insert into temp select b.forumid,a.postid,a.threadid,a.username,a.userid,a.title,a.pagetext from post a join thread b on a.threadid = b.threadid where b.forumid in (82)

(Bok, please correct me here if I'm at all mistaken/wrong/etc. regarding any of this stuff. As I said, I am a complete dummy when it comes to SQL. :smile:)

Presumably after running the above commands, it would be a relatively simple matter to dump the "temp" table to a CSV file and send it over to Bok.

Max :smile:

[quote=MyDogBuster;170289]I was referring to what gamer007 described. What you type, others who are present can see instantly and respond. Could probably use the lounge too. :smile:[/quote]
Okay, cool--that sounds workable. I'll do a little research into how to set up something like that and let you know what I come up with. :smile:

You can always use Free-DC's IRC server...
I'm sure you would be able to have your own chat room if you like...
Otherwise, talk to Bok about anything intergrated into vBulletin, he's the pro.

[QUOTE]
You can always use Free-DC's IRC server...
I'm sure you would be able to have your own chat room if you like...
Otherwise, talk to Bok about anything intergrated into vBulletin, he's the pro.
[/QUOTE]

As long as the only thing I have to do is go to the chat room, sign in and start typing, anything is acceptable.

[quote=MyDogBuster;170295]As long as the only thing I have to do is go to the chat room, sign in and start typing, anything is acceptable.[/quote]
Like this? :grin:
[URL]http://bugmesticky.googlepages.com/nplb-chat-test.htm[/URL]

[QUOTE[B]][/B]Like this? [B]:grin:[/[/B]QUOTE]

BINGO.:crank:

EDITED: I asked for a chatroom and Max and I just had a conversation on one on his web page.
Geez that took all of 2 minutes to get resolved. We're slowing down people ROTFLMAO

Edited: So gamer and Max and I were conversing on the test chatroom, and I asked gamer if he had found a prime on the mini drive yet. He responded no. 10 seconds later he found a prime. Top 5000 to boot.

[quote=MyDogBuster;170297][QUOTE[B]][/B]Like this? [B]:grin:[/[/B]QUOTE]

BINGO.:crank:[/quote]
Cool--when we get the new website set up I'll be sure to move the little chat box over there. :smile:

Won't let me in because I'm not 13 :crazy:

[quote=IronBits;170299]Won't let me in because I'm not 13 :crazy:[/quote]
I just entered 100 for the age to see if it would work. Seems it's not too choosy. :smile:

What cookie do they plant? I can just delete it and start over.
Perhaps you can find something a little bit better to.

[quote=IronBits;170301]What cookie do they plant? I can just delete it and start over.
Perhaps you can find something a little bit better to.[/quote]
I'm not sure which cookie to delete, but probably anything with meebo.com in the name would be it.

Regarding something better: got any suggestions? :smile: I considered IRC, but figured it would be much better to have something embedded directly on a web page.

Though, you're right--this one could use some improvement. I just noticed that it pops annoying little ads into the chat box every few minutes. :razz:

[url]http://www.free-dc.org/chat/chat.html[/url]

Change channel to: #NPLB and click connect now

Uses java and works, no ads, dp would love to see you there :)
You can also use mIRC, which I use mostly, and I'll keep it open for awhile.
For a quick and fast chat thing, you can use the java client.

Use it anytime you like. :tu:

It's amazing how things can move so quickly overnight.
This whole idea looks amazing.

[quote=henryzz;170316]It's amazing how things can move so quickly overnight.
This whole idea looks amazing.[/quote]

Yeah, heck, I'm just getting out of the way and letting them run with it. I'm just the lowly project admin in all of this. lmao

Another option for chat:
[URL]https://blueimp.net/ajax/[/URL]
You can see it in action here:
[URL]http://www.sc2pod.com/chat/[/URL]
It uses JS and optionally Flash (to speed up the updates), so there's no "scary" Java warnings asking if it can run. :smile: And it includes forum integration so you automatically have your user name (and moderator status) from the forums.
The only downside that comes to mind is that you can't access it from an external IRC app if you want to, since it's not IRC.

[url=http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38698]Shoutbox mod for vBulletin[/url]

Would this work ?

tremendous progress in this area!

so lets collect pro's and contra's for this idea, like Gary mentioned 'Why do we need this?'

a great contra for me is:
i have many, and when i say many they are many many, links to this forum in [url]www.rieselprime.de[/url] on a lot of pages there!
many page are not filled yet because the 'normal work' (collecting ranges and primes) needs much time of my life, although i like to do such work.
i've collected about 140000 primes for over 7500 k's in about 2 years now with many other information around Riesel-primes and it's growing!
THAT is the most comprehensive collection of Riesel-primes ever, shown on only one domain and not spreaded over the whole net and outdated!

i linked references to data like reservations or primes given on those pages.
so if all NPLB-threads are moved i have to change all those links manually!

another point: i have to check another forum for new information to collect!

it's even getting harder to follow up those many new primes found and ranges done to show them on my pages and it's growing further.
that new forum would be another time consuming part to manage!

Karsten

I "think", but I cannot confirm yet, that links to your pages from here should be intact if they were to be moved.

I have been asked to apply some thought to providing a formalized manual reservation process.
The purpose of that is to eliminate the NPLB forum scanning that you have to do to catch all the reservations.

Another thought I had was seeing if we can process some of Chris' files so we can report automatically if a result is "new" or "existing" and if it is Top-5000.
The purpose of that is to consolidate and automate the result reporting process.

I have some other thoughts about entry of "new" results in Chris' database, but that has not proved popular so far.

My thoughts are to try to find ways of helping you to do the important analysis and reporting at the tail end of the process
It would be convenient if we could help perhaps by collating, verifying and analyzing the results and delivering to you the details that you need.

I will continue to think more on how we might do that, but any suggestions you may have would be most welcome
(please PM me if you already have some ideas that we can investigate)

Karsten, If theres anything we can do to help, just ask. As far as gaining another forum to look at, well you would lose one also.

Help is only a post away. With all the talented folks we have, nothing is impossible. Ian

[quote=IronBits;170309][URL]http://www.free-dc.org/chat/chat.html[/URL]

Change channel to: #NPLB and click connect now

Uses java and works, no ads, dp would love to see you there :)
You can also use mIRC, which I use mostly, and I'll keep it open for awhile.
For a quick and fast chat thing, you can use the java client.

Use it anytime you like. :tu:[/quote]
Cool, that works! Much better than what I'd set up. :smile:

[quote]

[URL]http://www.free-dc.org/chat/chat.html[/URL]

Change channel to: #NPLB and click connect now

Uses java and works, no ads, dp would love to see you there :)
You can also use mIRC, which I use mostly, and I'll keep it open for awhile.
For a quick and fast chat thing, you can use the java client.

Use it anytime you like. :tu: [/quote]I tried it but Willie Windows won't download the ActiveX control. It says the file has no publisher. Any other way of getting the ActiveX control I need? It asked me if I want to install anyway, which I respond yes to, and it just sits there (probably counting up Willie's money).

Do you have Java installed ?
Chat app needs Java

[quote]Do you have Java installed ?
Chat app needs Java [/quote]Got it fixed. It was an IE8 problem so I switched to Firefox.

Thanks Brian

New forum is set up!
 

Hi all,

I am pleased to announce that the new forum is, for the most part, set up! We don't have any of the old forum's data transferred just yet, but the forum itself is working and ready for action. :grin:

The whole administration squad has been pre-registered so that we could get all of the fancy behind-the-scenes stuff set up.

mdettweiler (myself), Bok, AMDave, and IronBits are administrators; gd_barnes and MyDogBuster are super moderators; and kar_bon is a moderator for the NPLB and ROLP groups of subforums. For those of you who weren't already involved in the setup process, I'll send you your passwords via email. Most likely you'll want to change them after your first login. :smile:

I've placed a sticky thread in the Forum Feedback subforum that describes the permissions and capabilities of all the different classes of users, as well as how to distinguish them at a glance.

So, without further ado, here's the link to the new forum:

[URL]http://www.noprimeleftbehind.net/forum/[/URL]

All of our members are welcome to register there as soon as they like; please keep in mind that if you want your old posts from this forum to be connected with your username on the new forum when we do get them imported, you'll need to have your user ID on the new forum be the same as on mersenneforum. (Note that even if you don't pick the same username, we're pretty sure that your mersenneforum username *will* still be identified on the post. The only difference is that they won't be included in your postcount, etc. on the new user.)

Enjoy! :smile:

Max :smile:

[QUOTE]
mdettweiler (myself), Bok, AMDave, and IronBits are administrators; gd_barnes and MyDogBuster are super moderators; and kar_bon is a moderator for the NPLB and ROLP groups of subforums. For those of you who weren't already involved in the setup process, I'll send you your passwords via email. Most likely you'll want to change them after your first login. :smile:[/QUOTE]

I give up. What the h*ll is a super moderator. Sounds like something I'd find at an NHRA race. Can I get a job description for that? LOL:confused:

Maybe a DC-Vault.com Admin group would be nice...

:groupwave:

We added 4 new members today :tu:
I suggest all new members get registered at the new NPLB forum, as well as all the other members of NPLB.
It will come in handy later on with the stats I'm sure... a little birdie told me :wink:

Also, the admins, super users, super moderators, moderators and anyone else that wants to ask questions or answer them even, should be using the Free-DC chat server.

All you need is Java installed and click this link: [url]http://www.free-dc.org/chat/chat.html[/url]
Change Nickname to: ScreenName
Change Channel to: #NPLB
Click on Connect Now and you'll be there.
There are many IRC clients that can be used as well. I use mIRC myself.

Just do it :grin:

[quote=MyDogBuster;170412]I give up. What the h*ll is a super moderator. Sounds like something I'd find at an NHRA race. Can I get a job description for that? LOL:confused:[/quote]
It's all described fully in the "user privileges and name colors" thread in the Forum Feedback section. :smile: Essentially a super moderator is like a regular moderator, but they can moderate all subforums, not just selected ones.

I'm awaiting moderator approval for my account to be allowed to do, well, anything. Is this really necessary for new members? There's got to be better ways to prevent spam bots.

Looks like you already have been promoted. So that did not take long....

If there is a better way to prevent spammers I've not found it. They get around reCaptcha systems easily enough and even the other human verification options in place.

This way you can easily tell who the spammers are immediately and ban them without too much disruption. It's not as if anyone valid would have to wait long at all to be 'promoted' by one of the moderators.

It's worked well at Free-DC in the last 6 months or so and we even survived a 2 day co-ordinated attack without anyone really noticing except me :)

Just my 2cents anyway

[quote=Mini-Geek;170430]I'm awaiting moderator approval for my account to be allowed to do, well, anything. Is this really necessary for new members? There's got to be better ways to prevent spam bots.[/quote]
Actually, this is the same way it is on mersenneforum. When a user first registers, their posts have to be individually approved by the moderators, or, the next time an admin gets on and sees their registration they'll approve it across the board and all of their posts are accepted. From what I gather this is somewhat standard practice on many forums, and is probably the single most effective anti-spam tool available for forums. Essentially, most spam never gets to the point where regular users have to see it--the admins end up nipping it in the bud while it's still "pending".

The only difference that the NPLB forum has is that a few "extra" privileges are redacted when users first join. These being attachment uploading, use of avatars, the PM boxes are limited to 10 messages, they can't send PMs to more than one user at a time, and can't upload profile images. None of these could be considered highly crucial functions, especially considering that trusted users will probably be upgraded to full users right away at the same time their initial registration is approved; and others will simply have to wait until they produce 10 posts to get those features. Not too big a deal. :smile:

Let me know if you guys think 10 posts is a bit too much for this. I can easily change it to 5 posts.

I'm thinking you should let it be wide open for the first 3-5 days.
It will be awhile before the spammers find it, and by then, it will be locked down tighter.
Even if some were to get through, we can dispatch them quite easily.
That should also allow enough time to let the members get registered with as little hassle as possible.

[quote=IronBits;170440]I'm thinking you should let it be wide open for the first 3-5 days.
It will be awhile before the spammers find it, and by then, it will be locked down tighter.
Even if some were to get through, we can dispatch them quite easily.
That should also allow enough time to let the members get registered with as little hassle as possible.[/quote]
Okay, sounds good. I'll set it so that users are automatically promoted to full Members at a postcount of 0 (I presume that will work, right? Well, I guess I'm about to find out. :smile:)

Max :smile:

Nice.. I like the suck it and see way...LOL

Should new team members add requests be done on this site or the new site?
If the new site, will there be a thread started soon by admin with the Team lists that I can link to for my team?

Edit: by the way will there be a nice URL logo added to the forum URL? Just a pet peeve of mine - hate seeing the IE logo.

[quote]
Should new team members add requests be done on this site or the new site?
If the new site, will there be a thread started soon by admin with the Team lists that I can link to for my team?[/quote]Do it in this forum for now. Still setting the other one up. Many problems to address including an automated user/team registration.

Is the new site down? I keep getting 404 Not Found. It worked for about, but as soon as I click the "register" button after putting in my info, it broke.

[QUOTE]Is the new site down? I keep getting 404 Not Found. It worked for about, but as soon as I click the "register" button after putting in my info, it broke.[/QUOTE]

I just tried it, worked fine. Maybe the guys were upgrading something or the server hiccuped.

[quote=Razor_FX_II;170445]Edit: by the way will there be a nice URL logo added to the forum URL? Just a pet peeve of mine - hate seeing the IE logo.[/quote]
I'll see what I can do. We don't have an official favicon picked out yet (in fact we haven't quite finalized the logo, though the general consensus seems to be that the current one is a favorite). However, I'm sure I'll be able to come up with something. :smile:
[quote=MyDogBuster;170446]Do it in this forum for now. Still setting the other one up. Many problems to address including an automated user/team registration.[/quote]
Agreed. All "official" project business should be conducted in this forum until all the posts are transferred to the new one.

[quote=MyDogBuster;170452]I just tried it, worked fine. Maybe the guys were upgrading something or the server hiccuped.[/quote]
Hmm...must have been a hiccup somewhere along the line. I wasn't aware of any planned hiccups. Gamer007, you might want to give your registration another try since it doesn't appear to have gone through.

Okay, guys, I've completed a number of further setup tasks:

- I've loaded in all the smilies from mersenneforum.org. IMO they are much better (and provide much more choices) than the default vBulletin smilies. I'm assuming Xyzzy doesn't mind me doing this. :smile:

- I've begun the process of copying over - and revamping - all of our getting-started threads. The first one I tackled was the "Come join us!" thread. Man, that thread was sure out of date! :smile: Most of the stuff in it referred to the k=300-1001, n=260K-600K range that we completed last year. I have updated all the references (which ended up requiring some rather extensive wording modifications too). Some of you may notice that all the links are in red text--that's to indicate that they link to posts that I didn't get to copy over just yet, and they'll be filled in as I go. :smile:

As per a PM discussion with Gary, I'm posting the messages originally written by Gary under his name. Regardless of how similar the final text ends up being to the original, many of these things (such as the come-join-us and vision statement threads) really should come from the project leader's "mouth" to avoid confusion as to just who's the real leader of this project. :wink: :missingteeth:

Anyway, I don't have time to tackle any of the other threads tonight, but you guys can expect to see more of them get copied over tomorrow.

Max :smile:

I changed his title to Project Administrator :wink:
Check the links you are saying to go to or click, they aren't there yet.

Also, hope you guys realize, you can keep your IRC chat window open and connected all the time...
This way, you can ask questions, or make statements, then go back hours later and follow the conversations.
Don't just pop in, say something, then pop out again.
Also, don't just pop in, ask a question, the pop out in a few minutes...
Keep the window open, someone will get back to you with a response...
Takes no cpu cycles, or barely any, and keeps you up on what's going on in the IRC channel.
Who dropped by, comments left, questions posed, suggestions made... when you are not there, you miss out on that stuff.

Just do it :grin:

[quote=IronBits;170479]I changed his title to Project Administrator :wink:
Check the links you are saying to go to or click, they aren't there yet.

Also, hope you guys realize, you can keep your IRC chat window open and connected all the time...
This way, you can ask questions, or make statements, then go back hours later and follow the conversations.
Don't just pop in, say something, then pop out again.
Also, don't just pop in, ask a question, the pop out in a few minutes...
Keep the window open, someone will get back to you with a response...
Takes no cpu cycles, or barely any, and keeps you up on what's going on in the IRC channel.
Who dropped by, comments left, questions posed, suggestions made... when you are not there, you miss out on that stuff.

Just do it :grin:[/quote]
Regarding the title: thanks, that will be most helpful for avoiding confusion.

Regarding the links: yes, I know. That's why they're in red--to remind me that I haven't yet copied over/updated those pages yet, and will need to add the links after I have done so.

Regarding the IRC channel: all of that would be well and good, except that I have a wonky Java runtime engine on my computer (at least under Linux) that chews up more than half the CPU's resources whenever it's running. That's why I had it off for much of the time.

Though, yes, you're right, I have no excuse for not setting up a standalone IRC client which would suffer from no such problems. :smile:

Took the words right out of my mouth :grin:

Hmm, I´m registrated in the new forum, but can´t write there. I looked through me emails and there is no activationmail... :(

Edited by MyDogBuster: henryzz has the same problem

[quote] Hmm, I´m registrated in the new forum, but can´t write there. I looked through me emails and there is no activationmail... :(
Edited by MyDogBuster: henryzz has the same problem
[/quote]

I'm sure one of the admins will fix it soon.

Done.

Did you not receive an activation email at all ?

[QUOTE=MyDogBuster;170446]Do it in this forum for now. Still setting the other one up. Many problems to address including an automated user/team registration.[/QUOTE]

This has been added to the issue register by IB along with a great idea for helping it along.
It will take some work but it sounds like the best way.

i got an activation email and activated my account but it said i am on the moderation queue
it is now working properly for me
thanks

[quote=Bok;170513]Done.

Did you not receive an activation email at all ?[/quote]

Thanks a lot. Works now. But I didn´t get an email yet.

[QUOTE]Thanks a lot. Works now. But I didn´t get an email yet.
[/QUOTE]

Maybe it's in your spam folder. Thats where ALL of my emails go. LOL

[quote=MyDogBuster;170526]Maybe it's in your spam folder. Thats where ALL of my emails go. LOL[/quote]
I agree, most likely it went to a spam folder. Because from what I can tell there doesn't seem to be any problems on the server end of things regarding sending of activation emails.

I've got another one of the documentation pages updated and online at the new forum. This time it's the [URL="http://www.noprimeleftbehind.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11"]LLRnet tutorial thread[/URL]; guys, feel free to peruse it and let me know if you find any errors. :smile: Again, don't mind the red text; those will eventually be links when I get the target pages online.

Yes, really--slowly but surely, the documentation updating/copying IS coming along. :smile:

[QUOTE]I've got another one of the documentation pages updated and online at the new forum. This time it's the [URL="http://www.noprimeleftbehind.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11"]LLRnet tutorial thread[/URL]; guys, feel free to peruse it and let me know if you find any errors. :smile: Again, don't mind the red text; those will eventually be links when I get the target pages online.

Yes, really--slowly but surely, the documentation updating/copying IS coming along. :smile:
[/QUOTE]

Looks good Max. Nice job.

[QUOTE=AMDave;170078][url]http://stats.ironbits.net/statsnew/stats/team.gz[/url]
[url]http://stats.ironbits.net/statsnew/stats/user.gz[/url]

xml format
completely refreshed every hour at about 2 - 5 mins past the hour, depending on server load[/QUOTE]

Advisory notice:

Due to the migration of the stats site into [url]www.noprimeleftbehind.net[/url], the stats exports are now available at the following locations:
[url]http://www.noprimeleftbehind.net/stats/team.gz[/url]
[url]http://www.noprimeleftbehind.net/stats/user.gz[/url]

To ensure currency the old files have been removed and are no longer available.

What is the latest status on the two subjects of this thread?

[quote=henryzz;181543]What is the latest status on the two subjects of this thread?[/quote]
I can't answer regarding the DC-Vault stuff, but regarding the NPLB website, that's just about all set. All of the web page stuff has now been shifted over so that its primary address is at noprimeleftbehind.net (rather than stats.ironbits.net as before; that now redirects to noprimeleftbehind.net). There are two things left to do that I can think of right off the top of my head:

-Finish integrating the CRUS pages and other such stuff into the noprimeleftbehind.net server. Since Google Pages announced a while back that it was closing in favor of Google Sites, which doesn't support direct uploading of files (a must-have for the CRUS web pages), we decided to move it all to [URL]http://www.noprimeleftbehind.net/crus/[/URL]. Currently that section of the server is somewhat in disarray; it's essentially got all of the contents of the old [URL]http://gbarnes017.googlepages.com/[/URL] server there, including some non-CRUS stuff and even NPLB sieve files. I'm going to get the non-CRUS pages moved to [URL]http://www.noprimeleftbehind.net/gary/[/URL] (such as Gary's various other pages for base 10, twin primes, k<300, etc.) sometime soon (real life permitting). :smile:

-Merge the old NPLB forum (this one) into the new one. This will be a bit more involved. I'll need to coordinate this with Bok and Xyzzy. Bok described a method a while back that would allow the data to be easily dumped from the one forum and imported into the other; I'll need to have him write up a list of instructions for Xyzzy to follow to perform the export. Xyzzy said earlier in this thread that he would be largely unavailable all summer (though, at that point we were expecting this to possibly be somewhat of a larger effort on his part than it sounds like it will be), so I'm afraid I can't give much of an ETA on this one.

Max :smile:

Yeah, it's a lot of work yet. It took me several hours just to plop everything over there for CRUS into one directory, which I realize is less than ideal. But it couldn't wait due to the googlepages fiasco that was bearing down on me. In addition to getting everything over there, I had to change numerous links, both in the web pages themselves and in many different postings and threads in the mersenneforum as well as a couple of other places that I have posted them (such as my top-5000 ID).