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petrw1 2009-01-08 05:28

Not sure I should have this DC....
 
[CODE]Exponent Status Data
18728873 No factors below 2^67
P-1 B1=225000, B2=4500000
Unverified LL 46D44BAAF2DE42__ by "Ezram van Rijnberk"
Unverified LL 9FF61215444796__ by "Stefan Klinke"
Unverified LL FB879860A8D339__ by "petrw1" on 2008-12-21
Assigned Double-checking to "petrw1" on 2008-12-21
History FB879860A8D339__ by "petrw1" on 2008-12-21 [/CODE]

Three LL's/DC's. Three different residues. That alone is a concern.

But, one DC was mine and it is back assigned to me to DC again. Should I release it?

lycorn 2009-01-08 10:37

What is normally considered "good pratice" is to have, for a given exponent, the first time test and the DC perfomed by different participants.
So I would say "yes, release it".

cheesehead 2009-01-08 12:58

The use, since several versions ago, of a pseudorandom bit-shift at the beginning (and reversal at the end) provides noticeable protection against faulty hardware's producing the same erroneous residue from the same cause during two successive L-Ls on the same system. So there is not quite the same suspicion of same-system results that there had been before. However, there are still sources of error that would not be affected by that bit-shift.

IIRC v4 reports showed that shift count along with the returned residue.

petrw1 2009-01-08 17:11

[QUOTE=cheesehead;157618]The use, since several versions ago, of a pseudorandom bit-shift at the beginning (and reversal at the end) provides noticeable protection against faulty hardware's producing the same erroneous residue from the same cause during two successive L-Ls on the same system. So there is not quite the same suspicion of same-system results that there had been before. However, there are still sources of error that would not be affected by that bit-shift.

IIRC v4 reports showed that shift count along with the returned residue.[/QUOTE]

So are you implying I should or should not drop it OR it doesn't really matter anymore?

cheesehead 2009-01-08 17:40

[quote=petrw1;157643]So are you implying I should or should not drop it OR it doesn't really matter anymore?[/quote]Be above suspicion, like Caesar's wife. ([url]http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/juliuscaes161092.html[/url])

Drop it like a hot potato.

petrw1 2009-01-08 17:59

Hereby dropped....

S485122 2009-01-08 20:35

1 Attachment(s)
I searched the double-checked results for exponents above 40M. There where quite a lot double checked by the same user and sometimes the same computer. Some of the results are obviously multiple submissions of the same result... See the attached file.

Jacob

cheesehead 2009-01-10 16:21

[quote=S485122;157675]quite a lot double checked by the same user and sometimes the same computer[/quote]Caesar would've ordered them to be DCed independently ... or else divorced them.

lycorn 2009-01-11 13:55

And those exponents are lucky that Caesar was not like Henry VIII...


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