Of course Kosmaj deleted my prior two posts and responded with another tirade. Post 9 of the exchange by Kosmaj [URL="http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=140375&postcount=198"]here[/URL]:

[quote]
To Gary and Anon

If it was not already clear from before:
We don't want to deal or cooperate with you in any way.
We don't want to read your junk mail, and waste time responding to it.
You are not welcome on these pages.

We consider your latest reservation of 20 Ks void.

This is the end of discussion.
Please go away and leave us alone.
[/quote]

Hey Benson,

In case you read this thread Kosmaj is running K's 5, 15, 17 and others behind the stage ( I helped him...my bad!). I suggest you start attacking above 2M.

Cheers,

Carlos

I then reposted all my prior 2 posts again and added another post stating that I informed Xyzzy about the situation.

Unfortunately I inadvertantly deleted that one but it was also matter-of-fact.

Subsequent to that, Kosmaj once again deleted all THREE of my posts.

Then it gets interesting once more...

A good question was brought up in [URL="http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=140406&postcount=199"]this post[/URL] by MooooMoo:

[quote]
So does this mean that I (or any other individual) can reserve k=241? Just wondering, because that k is not listed as available on the [URL="http://www.rieselprime.org/"][COLOR=#22229c]www.rieselprime.org[/COLOR][/URL] page.
[/quote]

Kosmaj's lovely response to MooooMoo's post [URL="http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=140408&postcount=200"]here[/URL]:

[quote]
MooMoo

Yes you can, and you are welcome to do so!
[/quote]

My kind response to MooooMoo that was ONCE AGAIN deleted by Kosmaj:

[quote]

Suit yourself Mike. We don't get upset about such things.

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Wouldn't it be faster for you in the long run for us to sieve it and then you search it yourself? We'll have all of them sieved in < 2 months. That's what we offer is excellently sieved files for all k's. All that we ask is that if you use our sieve file that you report them as Primesearch.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]If you'd like to reserve it and sieve it yourself, I'm sure that Karsten would add your name on the reservation and our effort would, in effect, become a double-check...not a big deal to us. 5-10% of our efforts are double-checks anyway. If you sieve it, of course you can then feel free to report it under any project that you want or none at all.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]We're easy to get along with and don't take offense to people searching however and wherever they like. We just aim to fill in holes and gaps as the project says 'No prime left behind'. [/FONT][/COLOR]


[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Gary[/FONT][/COLOR]
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Upon seeing that my post again was deleted, I reposted in the NPLB forum [URL="http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=140410&postcount=1"]here[/URL].

Subsequent to the deleting of 4 posts by me, one that was a simple response to MooooMoo's good question, Kosmaj closed the thread so that I could not repost anymore. I suspect he'll open it up again when he sees I'm not around or create a new one. But my posts are in a more permanent place here now so I won't waste my time there any further.

OK, I'm done now. Sorry to inundate the forum here. It was the only way I could show everything on both sides appropriately.

Admins should act in a mature manner and only delete posts after they have informed people that they are doing so or have posted in their project that posts may be deleted at any time.

It IS possible for projects to work together on things but only if both sides are willing to give a little. Had Kosmaj responded appropriately, NPLB after some discussion, probably would gladly have worked together with RPS on these k's and shared the primes. As it is, that's impossible now. It's a sad day for prime searching when people act in such ways.

Carlos, thanks again. Your responses here cracked me up. As much as I'd like to rub it in a little more, I'll refrain. :smile:


Gary

More were deleted.

[quote=em99010pepe;140822]More were deleted.[/quote]
Yeah, I know--there was a post by me in the k<300 thread that I made yesterday that was deleted. Here's a copy of it for reference:

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Kosmaj;139947]Prime Search has never searched k<250, and since several years ago they haven't searched k<300 either (with exception of Griffin at k=255). On the other hand RPS, and 15k before, have been committed to k<300 from the beginning. We've searched some Ks from as low as n=20k.

In other words, [B]your reservation makes no sense[/B]! You have your 300 < k < 1000, 350 of them, that's more than enough.

And Ks at 600k are [B]not[/B] "behind" for prime search in general. Some k<100 of the k*2^n+1 form are still not completely tested below 500k![/quote]I've just noticed on the rieselprime.org [URL="http://www.rieselprime.org/Summary00300.htm"]300<k<2000 page[/URL] that Amphoria has a number of k's (495, 585, 615, 705, 765, 825, 885, 915, 945, and 975, specifically) reserved within the 400<k<1001 range for n>600K, which is fully within NPLB/PrimeSeach's "territory" per se. Now, mind you, we don't mind at all if others search in our range--after all, it's just less work for us to do! :smile: But, with this in mind, I find it illogical that RPS would have a problem with another project doing practically the same thing in their range, and for fully unreserved k's to boot!

I hope you guys understand where we're coming from here--all we're trying to do is make sure that lower k's are at least up to the same, preferably higher, level than 300<k<1001 is. Otherwise, what's the use? If someone's looking for patterns in the primes (which, as far as I can tell, is the primary practical use for all this work we and other non-conjecture-based prime-search projects are doing), what good is it going to do them if everything is all disjointed, some ranges searched significantly higher than some parts of others, etc.? I'm sorry if this is a potential annoyance for individual users who want to search their own k's from a low level, but we must always remember that searching k's and all that stuff is the [I]means[/I] to which to accomplish an end, not the end in and of itself. Thus, it is a waste of time and effort to worry about the means at the expense of the end.

Anon :smile:[/quote]

This belongs in the Feedback Forum and not the lounge. The super-mods are looking at the issue now and will get back to you shortly.

[quote=garo;140945]This belongs in the Feedback Forum and not the lounge. The super-mods are looking at the issue now and will get back to you shortly.[/quote]


Garo,

Thanks for moving it to the appropriate place and getting back with me.


Gary