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R.D. Silverman 2008-07-25 13:27

First ECM in 2 Months!
 
Aoki just found a 60-digit factor of 2,2098M with ECM.

This is the first new ECM factor in two months and I believe
is the longest period without a Cunningham ECM factor since
ECM was invented.

Unfortunately, the cofactor is still composite......

Andi47 2008-07-25 17:20

Congrats to Aoki!

Just curious: What is the factor and the cofactor?

bdodson 2008-07-26 03:22

[QUOTE=Andi47;138344]Congrats to Aoki!

Just curious: What is the factor and the cofactor?[/QUOTE]

Google reports

2,2098M c281 = p58 * c224, on September 28, 2005

where the p58 is PaulZ's p58 Cunningham p-1 record. So a new
p60 would be 224-60 = 164 +/- 1. The p60 isn't up on either
Sam's or Paul's pages (Cunningham & ecmnet, respectively). Maybe
the p60 ruined a gnfs prospect in the c224? -Bruce

xilman 2008-07-26 08:08

[QUOTE=bdodson;138363]Google reports

2,2098M c281 = p58 * c224, on September 28, 2005

where the p58 is PaulZ's p58 Cunningham p-1 record. So a new
p60 would be 224-60 = 164 +/- 1. The p60 isn't up on either
Sam's or Paul's pages (Cunningham & ecmnet, respectively). Maybe
the p60 ruined a gnfs prospect in the c224? -Bruce[/QUOTE]I've not heard of the details yet, so it won't be on my pages for that reason.

Paul

xilman 2008-07-26 08:09

[QUOTE=bdodson;138363]Google reports

2,2098M c281 = p58 * c224, on September 28, 2005

where the p58 is PaulZ's p58 Cunningham p-1 record. So a new
p60 would be 224-60 = 164 +/- 1. The p60 isn't up on either
Sam's or Paul's pages (Cunningham & ecmnet, respectively). Maybe
the p60 ruined a gnfs prospect in the c224? -Bruce[/QUOTE]Further, I note that a C164 is a reasonable target by GNFS but that a C224 would be remarkably hard.


Paul

R.D. Silverman 2008-07-26 12:44

[QUOTE=bdodson;138363]Google reports

2,2098M c281 = p58 * c224, on September 28, 2005

where the p58 is PaulZ's p58 Cunningham p-1 record. So a new
p60 would be 224-60 = 164 +/- 1. The p60 isn't up on either
Sam's or Paul's pages (Cunningham & ecmnet, respectively). Maybe
the p60 ruined a gnfs prospect in the c224? -Bruce[/QUOTE]

Huh? It certainly is on Paul's pages.....

[url]http://webloria.loria.fr/~zimmerma/cgi-bin/last.cgi?date[/url]

bdodson 2008-07-26 13:05

[QUOTE=xilman;138370]Further, I note that a C164 is a reasonable target by GNFS but that a C224 would be remarkably hard.

Paul[/QUOTE]

p60 = 237192716367319808525419681995440718925568206987372271548097

from the ecmnet page (quickstart; factors-by-date). B1 = 43M, p50-optimal.

The factor is Aoki's, as-in our current snfs record and the Cunningham
gnfs record c176. He previously found a p64 in pretesting for the kilobit
snfs. c224 would be a chance to consolidate post-rsa786 (c233)
observations, perhaps? -Bruce

PS - Ah, Paul's point isn't that Aoki mightn't consider c224 gnfs, so
much as that 2,2098M is now a much more "reasonable" factorization
after the p58 and p60. This p60 is useful; even though it left a
composite cofactor to finish.

(Sorry for the miss-info, I only checked the top10; looks like Bob
had this one before PaulZ's gotten to it!)

Raman 2008-07-28 15:04

[quote=bdodson;138377]
p60 = 237192716367319808525419681995440718925568206987372271548097
[/quote]
Is Prof. Sam really aware of this factor? He hasn't included this factor in his web pages so far. Did anybody send a reminder to him up?

I sent an information about this factor by my side. He hasn't responded, even in his web pages.

What happened to him up? Perhaps, has he gone away so for a long vacation, without any access to the internet?

PS: It has been already 5 days. Perhaps, has he also missed out all the factor that were being reported after at this one too?

bdodson 2008-07-29 03:50

[QUOTE=Raman;138445]Is Prof. Sam really aware of this factor? He hasn't included this factor in his web pages so far. Did anybody send a reminder to him up?

I sent an information about this factor by my side. He hasn't responded, even in his web pages.

What happened to him up? Perhaps, has he gone away so for a long vacation, without any access to the internet?

PS: It has been already 5 days. Perhaps, has he also missed out all the factor that were being reported after at this one too?[/QUOTE]

Relax already. I had an email from him last week. He was reporting having
driven by this part of Pennsylvania, on what sounded like an extended
vacation. For academics not teaching in summer school (or having recently
finished, like myself), we're in a brief break before the start of the new
academic year. He's (almost) certain to catch up on emails by early
September, presuming no unusual interruptions. Also, I don't believe that
we've had additional factor reports. -bd
--

Ah, also, PaulZ's been away for a while; so the ecmnet report (from which
Sam would likely first hear of the factor) just posted this morning. For eg,
the top10 is now updated. Ecmnet factors are reported automatically on
the cgi page referred to above (no worry about them being misplaced). Many
sieving results get reported by email, with multiple copies; as well as being
reported here (and again ...).

Batalov 2008-09-05 00:16

Congratulations to Bruce, too!
348131628285692590860028784957527660987485049321208797343 (p57)
and a top10 hit.

R.D. Silverman 2008-09-05 12:18

[QUOTE=Batalov;140901]Congratulations to Bruce, too!
348131628285692590860028784957527660987485049321208797343 (p57)
and a top10 hit.[/QUOTE]

Yep. Very nice.

Unfortunately, the cofacor is composite and still too big
to tackle with GNFS.

bdodson 2008-09-05 19:52

[QUOTE=Batalov;140901]Congratulations to Bruce, too!
348131628285692590860028784957527660987485049321208797343 (p57)
and a top10 hit.[/QUOTE]

Thanks! Bumped, and replaced, my even smaller p57 out of the
10th spot. I doubt any of the p57's will last long, epfl has had
some 20 BMtR numbers in the past 2 months, seems like just a
matter of time.

On Bob's encouragement, I wasn't looking for a p57, rather checking
so that p52-p55's would be less likely. One fewer snfs candidate
from among c260-c320, with the c212 cofactor a less immediately
attractive candidate (other things being equal). If we'd sieved the
c269 (as if! we should be so lucky), we'd have people describing the
p57 as a miss; so now that's not going to happen with the c212
(at least, for this p57). The number's just at 4.5*t50, which is above
the 4*t50 of a generic c190-c233, still not ready for sieving; but
likely not an immediate candidate, either. -Bruce


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