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firejuggler 2013-07-08 17:28

*joking *what? liberty is kissing passionately a blindfolded women?

i know it's supposed to be 'liberty' and ' justice'. But i'm sure Justice' would want to see who is kissing her.

chappy 2013-07-08 17:37

[QUOTE=jasong;345485]Homosexuality is destructive because it is against God. If it suddenly became a sin to use Firefox, then using Firefox would be destructive because it would be "against God."[/QUOTE]

Homosexuality is destructive if and only if it is actually destructive. Your example of Firefox is perfect, since any G-d that would declare Firefox use as a sin is obviously focused on the wrong things and therefore not worth my time/effort/belief.

[QUOTE=jasong;345485]I could just as easily argue that the damage against those little girls I molested when I was a teenager was 100% from society, since the problem had nothing to do with forcible rape or any sort of kidnapping.[/QUOTE]

You could try that argument, I suppose. And I suppose we could weigh the pros and cons of a destructive sexual relationship (just look at the bitterness it has caused in you!) against the [URL="http://mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=321270&postcount=737"]genuinely beautiful loving relationships among consenting adults[/URL]. I calculate that you will not like the answers we come up with.

[QUOTE=jasong;345485]Sometimes things are immoral simply because God says they are immoral.[/QUOTE]

See above but also that is just nonsensical even from a Christian viewpoint (at least once you are past 3rd grade Sunday School). The 10 commandments (neither version of them) are supposed to be "because I said so's" They are supposed to point toward a better way to live. Setting aside the fact that the ritual transgressions get completely ignored by Jesus when he is asked by the crowds. Remember he, like this forum, was a [URL="http://mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=88057&postcount=1"]reciprocity kind of guy.[/URL]


[QUOTE=jasong;345485]Oh, and in regards to that "ancient book." It only makes sense if you believe it was written by people and that God doesn't exist. So instead of being a mis-leading bastard, be honest and say you don't believe in God. Because if God wrote the book, the knowledge is infinitely old, rather than thousands of years old.[/QUOTE]

There's a [URL="http://mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=17223"]whole thread [/URL]on this forum where you and I have interacted a bit wherein I have made it abundantly clear my views on the subject--no mis-leading involved, though probably bastardy was. I don't even notice it anymore. But just in case you missed it those times, or [URL="http://mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=323676&postcount=770"]this time[/URL], [URL="http://mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=321056&postcount=708"]or this time,[/URL] perhaps once again: [B] I do not believe in anything that can't be Thumped. [/B] It's true that we don't know all the ways to Thump things yet, but that is a matter for smarter people and future generations. When Science knows everything it will stop.

xilman 2013-07-08 17:40

[QUOTE=jasong;345487][sarcasm]Quick, fetch me a 15-year old girl, I've been in denial too long.[/sarcasm][/QUOTE]Stop being so lazy and expecting everyone to do your work for you.

Head off to Spain where the age of consent is 13.

ewmayer 2013-07-08 19:43

[QUOTE=firejuggler;345702]*joking *what? liberty is kissing passionately a blindfolded women?

i know it's supposed to be 'liberty' and ' justice'. But i'm sure Justice' would want to see who is kissing her.[/QUOTE]

But you see, not knowing is what makes it so interesting. <3

chalsall 2013-07-08 19:57

[QUOTE=firejuggler;345702]i know it's supposed to be 'liberty' and ' justice'. But i'm sure Justice' would want to see who is kissing her.[/QUOTE]

Like many blind people, Justice observes just fine without sight.

Or, at least, many of them do, and she is supposed to....

kladner 2013-07-08 21:06

[QUOTE=xilman;345704]Stop being so lazy and expecting everyone to do your work for you.

Head off to Spain where the age of consent is 13.[/QUOTE]

[COLOR=Red][U][B]ZAP! [/B][/U] [/COLOR]:goodposting: :bow:

Well said, Sir! Right to the point in more ways than one.

And Jason, am I to understand that your transgression twenty-plus years ago involved you at seventeen and a girl of fifteen? I don't think that is universally illegal even in this hidebound country. For sure, you're nowhere near Jerry Lee Lewis territory.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Lee_Lewis#Marriage_to_a_minor[/url]

chappy 2013-07-08 21:46

[url]http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/07/pat-robertson-says-he-vomits-at-the-sight-of-gay-couples/[/url]

chalsall 2013-07-08 22:30

[QUOTE=chappy;345738][url]http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/07/pat-robertson-says-he-vomits-at-the-sight-of-gay-couples/[/url][/QUOTE]

Pat Robertson is stupid.

IMO.

chappy 2013-07-09 00:07

[url]http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/07/08/2267671/its-official-civil-unions-are-not-equal-to-marriage-under-federal-law/[/url]

Christie dodges the bullet of having to act against a large portion of his constituents. Now he can wait a month and blame the courts.

Xyzzy 2013-07-09 06:30

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Brian-E 2013-07-09 08:52

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The bigger picture always puts things into perspective, doesn't it? Those who can handle such ultimate truths should make the effort and enlarge the image.


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