[quote=mdettweiler;167451]No, it doesn't have to be on crunchford--any machine on your network will do.

Regarding having everything run automatically: well, I might be able to set something like that up, though I'd definitely have spend some time working on it. I've got a number of ideas about how to improve the stability of your setup that I won't go into now, but will explain in full detail once we've gotten this current situation resolved. :smile:[/quote]

My mom is going over to my place in a half hour or so to pull up the IP address on one of my machines. I'll post it here when she calls. Thank gish for helpful relatives and exes. lol

HOPEFULLY that will allow us to connect. :-)

I have the 1st file ready for the new 10th drive. I'll send it off to get loaded into port IB8000 shortly as well as start the new thread.


Gary

[quote=mdettweiler;167451]No, it doesn't have to be on crunchford--any machine on your network will do.

Regarding having everything run automatically: well, I might be able to set something like that up, though I'd definitely have spend some time working on it. I've got a number of ideas about how to improve the stability of your setup that I won't go into now, but will explain in full detail once we've gotten this current situation resolved. :smile:[/quote]


OK, I got it. My IP address on my home machines is 66.249.71.109.

Max, do your magic. lol I'll be at the hotel for another half-hour or so and then back on after about 3:30 AM EDT for an hour or so.

I'll cross my fingers.


Gary

[quote=gd_barnes;167490]OK, I got it. My IP address on my home machines is 66.249.71.109.

Max, do your magic. lol I'll be at the hotel for another half-hour or so and then back on after about 3:30 AM EDT for an hour or so.

I'll cross my fingers.


Gary[/quote]
Hmm...I've just tried connecting to that IP address, both via the web and through SSH, and it's not working. I can't think of why the heck it wouldn't be working, but nonetheless I still can't connect.

The weird thing is, if your mom was able to get the IP figured out, then that means she *was* able to get online from one of your machines. Which means that, at the very least, your router, cable modem, and the machine she connected from are functioning, so we can rule those out.

The only possibility that would even come close to causing something like this is if crunchford itself was having problems. Yet, if memory serves, crunchford *is* verified to be on and running OK, so it [i]should[/i] work. :huh:

One possibility that would fit the evidence is that crunchford might have gone kapooey sometime between the time it was turned back on after the power outage, and now. I know it may sound like somewhat of a long shot, but with that machine's track record, I sure wouldn't put it past it. :rant:

[quote=mdettweiler;167519]Hmm...I've just tried connecting to that IP address, both via the web and through SSH, and it's not working. I can't think of why the heck it wouldn't be working, but nonetheless I still can't connect.

The weird thing is, if your mom was able to get the IP figured out, then that means she *was* able to get online from one of your machines. Which means that, at the very least, your router, cable modem, and the machine she connected from are functioning, so we can rule those out.

The only possibility that would even come close to causing something like this is if crunchford itself was having problems. Yet, if memory serves, crunchford *is* verified to be on and running OK, so it [I]should[/I] work. :huh:

One possibility that would fit the evidence is that crunchford might have gone kapooey sometime between the time it was turned back on after the power outage, and now. I know it may sound like somewhat of a long shot, but with that machine's track record, I sure wouldn't put it past it. :rant:[/quote]


Oh well. Par for the course. No matter what we've done, there is always something that we don't think of. No, the crunchford machine is just fine. Keep in mind that only one mobo has blown on a machine with the crunchford hard drive in it. The current one that it is in has been quite stable except for the power outage, although as I said in a text to you, it's running a little warmer than the average of other machines. At some point, I may swap the hard drive with another machine to avoid a mobo problem with the remote access thing and the servers (if we keep them on there).

I did not specifically have my mom check the IP address on crunchford but yesterday, Sherri confirmed that indeed crunchford was turned on, logged on, and that the Start VNC server thing had been activated. The only thing I didn't have her do is make sure that it was connected to the internet. Perhaps that is the problem but I'm not about to impose on anyone to go over there yet again on the long-shot chance that that might be the issue. After all, if one of my Intel's was connected, they all should be. If I knew 100% that that might be the issue, I might be able to get a friend or my dad to drop by but at this point, it's not worth it since I'll be back in 2 days.

This makes me think that even when I get home, there's no way to make the remote access thing work without my desktop being turned on. I have the new hard drive for it but it's likely to be early next week before I have time to mess with reloading everything on it.

Let's please not require that my Windows desktop be turned on anymore with this no-IP thing after we get this all figured out. My Window's desktop should be completely separate from all of this. It sits in my upstairs bedroom 2 stories above my quads in the basement. It's just not something that I think about when having people turn on my machines after an outage nor when the hard drive crashes on it.


Gary

[quote=gd_barnes;167533]Oh well. Par for the course. No matter what we've done, there is always something that we don't think of. No, the crunchford machine is just fine. Keep in mind that only one mobo has blown on a machine with the crunchford hard drive in it. The current one that it is in has been quite stable except for the power outage, although as I said in a text to you, it's running a little warmer than the average of other machines. At some point, I may swap the hard drive with another machine to avoid a mobo problem with the remote access thing and the servers (if we keep them on there).

I did not specifically have my mom check the IP address on crunchford but yesterday, Sherri confirmed that indeed crunchford was turned on, logged on, and that the Start VNC server thing had been activated. The only thing I didn't have her do is make sure that it was connected to the internet. Perhaps that is the problem but I'm not about to impose on anyone to go over there yet again on the long-shot chance that that might be the issue. After all, if one of my Intel's was connected, they all should be. If I knew 100% that that might be the issue, I might be able to get a friend or my dad to drop by but at this point, it's not worth it since I'll be back in 2 days.

This makes me think that even when I get home, there's no way to make the remote access thing work without my desktop being turned on. I have the new hard drive for it but it's likely to be early next week before I have time to mess with reloading everything on it.

Let's please not require that my Windows desktop be turned on anymore with this no-IP thing after we get this all figured out. My Window's desktop should be completely separate from all of this. It sits in my upstairs bedroom 2 stories above my quads in the basement. It's just not something that I think about when having people turn on my machines after an outage nor when the hard drive crashes on it.


Gary[/quote]
Hmm...indeed, that is quite odd. Yes, I agree that at this point it probably would be best just to wait until you get home, especially since we've already started Drive #10 at 12.5T anyway.

The thing is, the Windows desktop *shouldn't* have needed to be on to get in as long as we have the IP address; all the Windows desktop does is report the IP to No-IP. (And yes, I'll definitely see about getting that moved to a different machine once everything is back up. :smile:) So, unless your IP address changed again, *after* your mom left (but before I tried to connect), then I'm stumped. (And, most probably, it *didn't* change as such, since that wouldn't fit with previous observed patterns--though I could be wrong about that.)

When you get home, in addition to verifying that crunchford is online and working, you'll need to check your IP address again, and see if it matches the one that your mom reported earlier. If so, then I don't know what went on. If not...then it would seem that my "implausible" theory stated earlier is indeed correct. :smile:

Max :smile:

You can put the no-ip client on all the crunchers.
And make sure it auto-starts at every boot-up

[quote=IronBits;167665]You can put the no-ip client on all the crunchers.
And make sure it auto-starts at every boot-up[/quote]
Yeah, I think that's what I'll do. That way we should have no worries about the IP address not updating. :smile:

[quote=mdettweiler;167687]Yeah, I think that's what I'll do. That way we should have no worries about the IP address not updating. :smile:[/quote]

Cool! That works for me. It'll be even better if we can make them turn themselves back on and start crunching where they left off after a power outage. That would be excellent! :-)

Max, my plane gets in about 11:30 PM CDT Thurs. night, which means I'll probably be home by 1 AM. I'll probably unpack, throw a load of laundry in, and then get the machines crunching again. They should all be chunking by 3-4 AM Friday morning. I'll let you know the status of my IP and crunchford at that point. Hopefully you'll be able to do some magic with the remote access thing sometime on Friday.


Gary

[quote=gd_barnes;167737]Cool! That works for me. It'll be even better if we can make them turn themselves back on and start crunching where they left off after a power outage. That would be excellent! :-)

Max, my plane gets in about 11:30 PM CDT Thurs. night, which means I'll probably be home by 1 AM. I'll probably unpack, throw a load of laundry in, and then get the machines crunching again. They should all be chunking by 3-4 AM Friday morning. I'll let you know the status of my IP and crunchford at that point. Hopefully you'll be able to do some magic with the remote access thing sometime on Friday.


Gary[/quote]
Okay, sounds good. :smile:

OK, Max, all my machines are now officially running and connected to the internet. I made sure that "Start VNC server" was run on all of them...probably more than once on several of them because I couldn't be sure if Sherrri had run them all and I had to restart several of them several times to get rid of the mouse problems and internet connection problems.

The problem was: Crunchford wasn't connected to the internet. As a matter of fact, about half of my machines were not connected and half were. This is an oddity that I've experienced before only on power outages. Since I have to have 2 of the little "router boxes" for 10 machines, the 2nd one "in line" seems to have to have it's little black chord thingie unplugged and then plugged back in before it rights itself. Unfortunately Crunchford is plugged into that one.

I tried the whatsmyip.org site to check my public IP address on several machines...no luck. I think the site is down because I couldn't get it to pull up on any of them.

The servers are ready to be restarted now. Time to do your magic. Once that is done and you're able to get the no-IP thing loaded on my quads, let's discuss how we'd like to make my machines restart after a power outage in the future. If we can do that, then I think it'll be OK leaving the servers on them.

My sieving on 10 cores is now running and will complete in < 1.5 days. I have 4 cores running CRUS. Besides those, everything else is now running port 8000. It's time to find some serious primes to make up for lost time. :smile: After the sieving is done, I'll put 2 cores back on your k=147, 2 on some k=300-400 k's, and the rest on port 8000.

Rock on!


Gary

[QUOTE=gd_barnes;167877]OK, Max, all my machines are now officially running and connected to the internet. I made sure that "Start VNC server" was run on all of them...probably more than once on several of them because I couldn't be sure if Sherrri had run them all and I had to restart several of them several times to get rid of the mouse problems and internet connection problems.

The problem was: Crunchford wasn't connected to the internet. As a matter of fact, about half of my machines were not connected and half were. This is an oddity that I've experienced before only on power outages. Since I have to have 2 of the little "router boxes" for 10 machines, the 2nd one "in line" seems to have to have it's little black chord thingie unplugged and then plugged back in before it rights itself. Unfortunately Crunchford is plugged into that one.

I tried the whatsmyip.org site to check my public IP address on several machines...no luck. I think the site is down because I couldn't get it to pull up on any of them.

The servers are ready to be restarted now. Time to do your magic. Once that is done and you're able to get the no-IP thing loaded on my quads, let's discuss how we'd like to make my machines restart after a power outage in the future. If we can do that, then I think it'll be OK leaving the servers on them.

My sieving on 10 cores is now running and will complete in < 1.5 days. I have 4 cores running CRUS. Besides those, everything else is now running port 8000. It's time to find some serious primes to make up for lost time. :smile: After the sieving is done, I'll put 2 cores back on your k=147, 2 on some k=300-400 k's, and the rest on port 8000.

Rock on!


Gary[/QUOTE]
Okay, great! I've just verified that the [url]http://nplb-gb1.no-ip.org/llrnet/[/url] page loads correctly, so crunchford is definitely up and running. :smile:

I'll get on momentarily and restart the LLRnet/PRPnet servers. It's really late right now for me (3:15 AM) and I have to get to bed, so I don't have time to do anything further tonight. I'll get the No-IP thing set up tomorrow on all of your quads, as well as see about getting the servers moved to one of your Intel machines. I'll keep you posted via PM regarding the No-IP and server-moving stuff.

Max :smile: