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CRGreathouse 2020-02-13 04:47

Parity barrier
 
Silverman suggested talking about some real mathematics, maybe the parity problem. I don't know if we have enough expertise here for a good discussion, but I thought I'd give it a go.

Tao has some great expository articles:
[url]https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/open-question-the-parity-problem-in-sieve-theory/[/url]
[url]https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2014/11/21/a-general-parity-problem-obstruction/[/url]
[url]https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2015/01/21/254a-notes-4-some-sieve-theory/[/url]
[url]https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2014/07/09/the-parity-problem-obstruction-for-the-binary-goldbach-problem-with-bounded-error/[/url]
[url]https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2016/07/17/notes-on-the-bombieri-asymptotic-sieve/[/url]

Here are some papers showing real results breaking the parity barrier: [url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC19742/]Friedlander & Iwaniec[/url], [url=https://projecteuclid.org/euclid.acta/1485891369]Heath-Brown[/url], [url=https://arxiv.org/abs/math/0501177]Helfgott[/url], [url=https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/1568176.pdf]Heath-Brown & Moroz[/url], [url=https://www.jstor.org/stable/26430485]Ramaré & Walker[/url], [url=https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/48514F53D73B2C1277BD7232630F0694/S2050508616000068a.pdf/div-class-title-the-logarithmically-averaged-chowla-and-elliott-conjectures-for-two-point-correlations-div.pdf]Tao[/url], and [url=http://dx.doi.org/10.4007/annals.2014.179.3.7]Zhang[/url].

It's hard,and there are still no general techniques, but it's doable. Bilinear forms seem to be a recurring theme.

R.D. Silverman 2020-02-13 05:09

[QUOTE=CRGreathouse;537469]Silverman suggested talking about some real mathematics, maybe the parity problem. I don't know if we have enough expertise here for a good discussion, but I thought I'd give it a go.

Tao has some great expository articles:
[url]https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/open-question-the-parity-problem-in-sieve-theory/[/url]
[url]https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2014/11/21/a-general-parity-problem-obstruction/[/url]
[url]https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2015/01/21/254a-notes-4-some-sieve-theory/[/url]
[url]https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2014/07/09/the-parity-problem-obstruction-for-the-binary-goldbach-problem-with-bounded-error/[/url]
[url]https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2016/07/17/notes-on-the-bombieri-asymptotic-sieve/[/url]

Here are some papers showing real results breaking the parity barrier: [url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC19742/]Friedlander & Iwaniec[/url], [url=https://projecteuclid.org/euclid.acta/1485891369]Heath-Brown[/url], [url=https://arxiv.org/abs/math/0501177]Helfgott[/url], [url=https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/1568176.pdf]Heath-Brown & Moroz[/url], [url=https://www.jstor.org/stable/26430485]Ramaré & Walker[/url], [url=https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/48514F53D73B2C1277BD7232630F0694/S2050508616000068a.pdf/div-class-title-the-logarithmically-averaged-chowla-and-elliott-conjectures-for-two-point-correlations-div.pdf]Tao[/url], and [url=http://dx.doi.org/10.4007/annals.2014.179.3.7]Zhang[/url].

It's hard,and there are still no general techniques, but it's doable. Bilinear forms seem to be a recurring theme.[/QUOTE]

The basic problem, even for weighted sieves is that each time one adds an (additional)
element to the sieve a tiny bit of error creeps in. With enough elements the error
term overtakes the main term. Typically, when sieving integers up to B is that one can
use up to [log(B)]^m for some m elements in the sieve or under some conditions
B^epsilon for small epsilon before the errors become too large. This is known sometimes
as the "fundamental lemma of the sieve".

Example: How many integers in [1,101] are divisible by 3. Answer is trivially 33.
But it is also 33 for [1,99], and [1,100]. We estimate the number in [1,N] as N/3
but this is seen to be a "little bit wrong". If we want to sieve all the primes up to
K without error we need to take B >> 2*3*5*...K ~ exp(K). Thus we only are allowed
to have log(B) primes in the sieve if we want to avoid accumulating errors. When
we bound the error (depending on the weighting scheme) we can take up to log^m (B)
sieve elements.

R.D. Silverman 2020-02-13 05:49

[QUOTE=R.D. Silverman;537473]The basic problem, even for weighted sieves is that each time one adds an (additional)
element to the sieve a tiny bit of error creeps in. With enough elements the error
term overtakes the main term. Typically, when sieving integers up to B is that one can
use up to [log(B)]^m for some m elements in the sieve or under some conditions
B^epsilon for small epsilon before the errors become too large. This is known sometimes
as the "fundamental lemma of the sieve".

Example: How many integers in [1,101] are divisible by 3. Answer is trivially 33.
But it is also 33 for [1,99], and [1,100]. We estimate the number in [1,N] as N/3
but this is seen to be a "little bit wrong". If we want to sieve all the primes up to
K without error we need to take B >> 2*3*5*...K ~ exp(K). Thus we only are allowed
to have log(B) primes in the sieve if we want to avoid accumulating errors. When
we bound the error (depending on the weighting scheme) we can take up to log^m (B)
sieve elements.[/QUOTE]

With regard to the bilinear forms: The successes have come because the range sets
for these forms have "sufficient density". When one considers (say) X^2 + 1, there
are ~sqrt(B). such integers up to B. But if we take a bilinear form such as x^2 + y^4
there are ~B^(3/4) such integers less than B. This is "just enough more"
so that sieve methods can succeed; the range sets are just a little bit denser.

BTW, I have read Halberstam & Richert's "Sieve Methods" a couple of times. I have
it on good authority from an expert (my ex) that it is a great reference, but not a
great textbook to learn from. I found it frustrating to read and understand. I still
can't claim to understand it, but it is a good starting point.

R.D. Silverman 2020-02-13 05:52

[QUOTE=R.D. Silverman;537477]With regard to the bilinear forms: The successes have come because the range sets
for these forms have "sufficient density". When one considers (say) X^2 + 1, there
are ~sqrt(B). such integers up to B. But if we take a bilinear form such as x^2 + y^4
there are ~B^(3/4) such integers less than B. This is "just enough more"
so that sieve methods can succeed; the range sets are just a little bit denser.

BTW, I have read Halberstam & Richert's "Sieve Methods" a couple of times. I have
it on good authority from an expert (my ex) that it is a great reference, but not a
great textbook to learn from. I found it frustrating to read and understand. I still
can't claim to understand it, but it is a good starting point.[/QUOTE]

Does anyone know if Murty's book is a better tutorial?

CRGreathouse 2020-02-15 03:07

[QUOTE=R.D. Silverman;537478]Does anyone know if Murty's book is a better tutorial?[/QUOTE]

I was curious as to how that compared to the Halberstam-Richert book.

R.D. Silverman 2020-02-17 03:38

[QUOTE=CRGreathouse;537616]I was curious as to how that compared to the Halberstam-Richert book.[/QUOTE]

Indeed. That is why I asked. Halberstam & Richert is also somewhat dated.

philmoore 2020-02-22 00:43

[QUOTE=R.D. Silverman;537478]Does anyone know if Murty's book is a better tutorial?[/QUOTE]

Do you mean the book by Cojocaru and Ram Murty? I have recently begun studying it and have been enjoying it. I did bog down a couple years ago in Halberstam and Richert.

R.D. Silverman 2020-02-25 16:20

[QUOTE=philmoore;538122]Do you mean the book by Cojocaru and Ram Murty? I have recently begun studying it and have been enjoying it. I did bog down a couple years ago in Halberstam and Richert.[/QUOTE]

Yes. Comments are welcome.


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