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science_man_88 2010-07-28 14:48

time to give up on oil ?
 
I think it's time to give up on oil. the gulf oil spill the yellow sea? oil spill and now a pipe leak in Michigan. until we have a foolproof system to get at it and reuse it I say we give up on oil.

Andi47 2010-07-28 16:40

[QUOTE=science_man_88;223175]I think it's time to give up on oil. the gulf oil spill the yellow sea? oil spill and now a pipe leak in Michigan. until we have a foolproof system to get at it and reuse it I say we give up on oil.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, giving up oil is a thing which can't be done within a short period of time - it rather seems to be a process which will last a few [i]decades[/i].

Examples: Cars have to be developed which are not fueled by oil (do you know any electric car which is ready for mass production - except the Tesla Roadster which can't be afforded by average people)

gasolines have to be converted for for recharging batteries of electric cars

power plants have to be built which don't run on fossil fuel. (and NO, nuclear power isn't a solution - Harrisburg and Chernobyl have shown that it isn't foolproof either)

R.D. Silverman 2010-07-28 17:44

[QUOTE=Andi47;223184](and NO, nuclear power isn't a solution - Harrisburg and Chernobyl have shown that it isn't foolproof either)[/QUOTE]

If everything that we did had to be "foolproof" in order to do it, nothing
would ever get done.

Everything we do carries risk. Expecting otherwise is unrealistic.

xilman 2010-07-28 20:05

[quote=Andi47;223184](and NO, nuclear power isn't a solution - Harrisburg and Chernobyl have shown that it isn't foolproof either)[/quote]As was pointed out long ago, more people died at Chappaquidick than at Harrisburg.

Paul

Uncwilly 2010-07-28 22:46

[QUOTE=xilman;223199]As was pointed out long ago, more people died at Chappaquidick than at Harrisburg.[/QUOTE]And in Chinese coal mines this year than in Chernobyl.

science_man_88 2010-07-28 23:55

see you all seem to think about humans and not other animals that will determine the human population.

Uncwilly 2010-07-29 06:37

[QUOTE=science_man_88;223209]see you all seem to think about humans and not other animals that will determine the human population.[/QUOTE]Here are some revolutionary thoughts: Ban all medical fertility help. Pass laws in most countries like China's one child law. Limit much of end of life care to palliative. Make certain crimes punishable by sterilization.

science_man_88 2010-07-29 13:13

okay maybe not foolproof but my point is that most of what i hear you saying is [B]we[/B](humans) and cost[B][U][I][COLOR="Red"] must[/COLOR][/I][/U][/B] come first before the environment we live in.


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