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tetramur 2021-06-30 18:52

Factoring as the problem of quadratic minimization
 
The factoring is trivially equivalent to following minimization problem:
Minimize x1*x2 with these conditions:
x1*x2 >= N
2 <= x1 <= N-1
2 <= x2 <= N-1
x1 <= x2
Question: is it possible to get polynomial-timed solution for this problem?

charybdis 2021-06-30 19:09

[QUOTE=tetramur;582328]Minimize x1*x2 with these conditions:
x1*x2 >= N
2 <= x1 <= N-1
2 <= x2 <= N-1
x1 <= x2[/QUOTE]

Okay, let's try this. Suppose I want to factorize N = 91. I'll plug your conditions into my magic optimization machine, and out come the factors:

x1 = √91, x2 = √91

Wait, you wanted the solutions to be integers? Well, you're out of luck - my machine doesn't know how to solve that type of [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer_programming"]problem[/URL] in polynomial time.

R. Gerbicz 2021-06-30 19:42

[QUOTE=tetramur;582328]The factoring is trivially equivalent to following minimization problem:
Minimize x1*x2 with these conditions:
x1*x2 >= N
2 <= x1 <= N-1
2 <= x2 <= N-1
x1 <= x2
Question: is it possible to get polynomial-timed solution for this problem?[/QUOTE]

No, you need also that x1 and x2 are integers(!), and with this it is an integer optimization problem [without easy 'shortcuts"], you can try it out using say GLPK (it is free). And it is quite well known. Another similar form:
minimize 0
subject to:
x1 and x2 are integers
x1*x2=N
2<=x1
2<=x2
ps. note that if N is prime then this form has no solution.

tetramur 2021-07-01 06:11

[QUOTE=R. Gerbicz;582334]No, you need also that x1 and x2 are integers(!), and with this it is an integer optimization problem [without easy 'shortcuts"], you can try it out using say GLPK (it is free). And it is quite well known. Another similar form:
minimize 0
subject to:
x1 and x2 are integers
x1*x2=N
2<=x1
2<=x2
ps. note that if N is prime then this form has no solution.[/QUOTE]
Yes, exactly. I intended solution to be integers.
Also, I checked that integer optimization problems are NP-complete in general, but I don't know if this particular problem is NP-complete.


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