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The plural of "guess" is not "fact"
[QUOTE=GP2;467922]also [URL="http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=19014&p=461679"]user TJAOI has covered everything up to 64 bits[/URL].[/QUOTE]It is my understanding that we don't know this for certain. It is merely an assumption that people seem to take as a known truth.
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[QUOTE=retina;467936]It is my understanding that we don't know this for certain. It is merely an assumption that people seem to take as a known truth.[/QUOTE]
It's no different than trusting all the other "no factor" TF results. |
[QUOTE=Mark Rose;467963]It's no different than trusting all the other "no factor" TF results.[/QUOTE]Maybe. But there is a difference in that we can audit results from users doing TF to compare the expected vs discovered factors. It isn't a perfect test of course. However, there is no equivalent test we can apply to the results from TJAOI.
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[QUOTE=retina;467964]Maybe. But there is a difference in that we can audit results from users doing TF to compare the expected vs discovered factors. It isn't a perfect test of course. However, there is no equivalent test we can apply to the results from TJAOI.[/QUOTE]
See [URL="http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?p=467989"]my post in the "User TJAOI" thread[/URL], where I look at the datestamps for factor discoveries in the PrimeNet database to check how systematic TJAOI's searches are. Spoiler: from the empirical evidence, it is very systematic. Apart from one glitch almost three years ago, which was quickly fixed, it is indeed true that when TJAOI finishes with a given bit-size range, no new factors of that bit size are ever discovered, by him or by anyone else. Doing TF for 64-bits or smaller will not find any new factors. Even 65 bits would probably just be a duplication of effort, since we can expect TJAOI to systematically complete that range sometime in 2018. |
Here is a graph of the number of factored exponents (at least 1 factor) since November 2008 based on the summary files.
[URL="http://hoegge.dk/mersenne/factored.png"]factored.png[/URL] The top of the chart 30,850,000 is roughly at 20M unfactored exponents (19,997,534). Unfortunately the slope has gone down during 2017, the averate rate in the last 6 months is 436 exponents per day, which will give 10.1 years to reach 20M unfactored exponents. |
Number of newly factored exponents per day, average over 30 days:
[URL="http://hoegge.dk/mersenne/factoredspeed.png"]factoredspeed.png[/URL] |
Yeah I know its a long way away....but I think it will be done before all exponents are tested up to 100M ... or before we find our find a 100M digit prime.
I just find it interesting to watch. And if I can knock off a couple dozen ranges over the next year it will be fun. TeeHeeHee And thanks for the data. |
Oct 15, 2017 Update; 1 month later
643 more exponents factored in the ranges of interest....0 - 59.9M
(In ranges where there are still more than 1,999 unfactored. 2 more ranges cleared (now below 2,000): 48.9M and 49.1M |
November 16, 2017 - 1 month later
800 more exponents factored in the ranges of interest....0 - 59.9M
(In ranges where there are still more than 1,999 unfactored. 2 more ranges cleared (now below 2,000): 46.1M and 49.9M |
100 days...100 factors for me.
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December 17,2017 - Monthly Update
841 more exponents factored in the ranges of interest....0 - 59.9M
(In ranges where there are still more than 1,999 unfactored. 6 more ranges cleared (now below 2,000): 1.8M, 2.1M, 45.4M, 47.0M, 47.6M and 48.0M |
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