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Evgeny Dolgov 2003-12-06 10:55

Have Found Principle to generate infinitive PRIME NUMBERS
 
Greetings!

It’s no joke.

I have found principle to generate very huge PRIME NUMBERS (any (infinitive) length) special two kind

It’s easy to generate prime number that
weighs in at a whopping 10,000,000 decimal digits!
50 000 000 and more and more – it’s infinitive

And of course I want to get money prize using this principle. (50 000 $) or not.

It’s very simple. It's not PRIME NUMBERS of Mersenne!!!!

Question : What i must to do right (official) - to get prize
and to make this principle - public to all community?

Evgeny Dolgov

andi314 2003-12-06 12:06

How can you test number which have about 10-50 million digits for primility????
A LL-Test takes more than a month on the todays fastest computer( exept supercomputers)!!!
And all other numbers that have no special form are impossible to test for primility!

So I cant believe in your statement!!==>:spam:
andi314

Wacky 2003-12-06 12:38

[quote]
It’s no joke.

I have found principle to generate very huge PRIME NUMBERS ...

[/quote]

If you have truly done so, your discovery is potentially quite valuable.

The first thing that you should do is to establish proof of whatever it is. Write up a COMPLETE description of the idea, sign and date the document, and mail it to yourself. When you get it back, DO NOT OPEN the letter, but keep it in a safe place.

Then you need to generate a prime large enough to qualify for the prize and establish how it can be proven to be prime in a "reasonable" time. (I presume that there is some property of the generating scheme that can be used to accelerate the proof).

At that point, you should find a professional to review your idea. Start with a faculty advisor who should be able to assist you in finding someone who is both qualified and willing to review your work. If it passes the first review, I'm sure that they will be excited and quite willing to help you proceed from there.

Evgeny Dolgov 2003-12-06 12:41

Thanks for replay

Ok i reply

Infinity is based on elemental properties
of two kind of Prime numbers.

So you can generate any huge prime number
using very simple rule without any computer machines.

and easy to verify that numbers. (probably)


ok. of course i know that hard to believe
because during centuries there is no any rules

only like Mersenne or other.

But i say the prime numbers using my very simple principle
cannot be obtained or computed using rule of mersenne.

it's not numbers like 2p-1

i know that Mathematical society have to test my principle of
generation infinitive prime numbers. But results i think about 95-100% of success.

So i need to say all this official and to right people or
math organization,

i need help to tell this right and
may be win the money prize.

In which organization i have to turn to?

Thanks for any help

Evgeny Dolgov

TauCeti 2003-12-06 12:48

Re: Have Found Principle to generate infinitive PRIME NUMBERS
 
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Evgeny Dolgov [/i]
[B]I have found principle to generate very huge PRIME NUMBERS (any (infinitive) length) special two kind

It’s easy to generate prime number that
weighs in at a whopping 10,000,000 decimal digits!
50 000 000 and more and more – it’s infinitive
[/B][/QUOTE]

You should describe your principle here or - even better - below in the "Math"-section so we can discuss it there in detail.

Of course there exist algorithms that find primes of 10,000,000 decimal digits - testing all the mersenne prime-candidates is one of the more efficient. You have to show us how your algorithm needs less time to do the same.

If you believe, that you have invented a prime-producing formula without the need of testing the generated numbers for primality, but do not want to share the details with us, just let your formula produce a bunch of primes with - let's say - 40 decimal digits and check them for primality online with the [URL=http://www.cryptomathic.com/labs/rabinprimalitytest.html]Miller-Rabin test[/URL]. If you want, please calculate ten 40-digit numbers with your idea, punch them in using the link above and let us know how many of them are prime.

Unregistered 2003-12-06 12:55

thanks for reply Wacky!

ok


So i told about all idea to people who works with me.
Some of them are have mathematical education -
they found this intresting.

ok I'll send a letter to my mail boxes at first with
detail description.

Evgeny Dolgov

(of course i may be mistaken - i understand -
that must be strong proof )

OF COURSE I CAN TEST numbers with lenght
up to 50 digits on my computer and some amount of time.

to help to proof more huge - it's must be initiative of math society
to use GRID computing

Evgeny Dolgov 2003-12-06 12:58

Thanks for reply


now i'm using this Miller-Rabin test
very helpfull tool

big thanks


later i'l send reply


Evgeny Dolgov

andi314 2003-12-06 12:58

Can you please briefly describe how your algorithm works. ( please dont mention any details!!!)

andi314

Evgeny Dolgov 2003-12-06 13:39

it's not working with large numbers
so the end of test

but i'll search more . i think on the right way

ok i tell details

at first i wrote

5+7-1=11
5+7+1=13
3+3+1
5+5+1
7+7-1 7+7+1 X
11+11+1
23+23+1

1+1+1
2+2+1
3+3+1
5+5+1
7+7-1
11+11+1
13+13+1-1 X
17+17-1 +1 X
19+19-1 +1 X
23+23+1
...

then..

the last digit must not be ....
4,6,8,5,2

then...

13, 113, 11113, 111111113, ...

and i thought it can continue
then count of digit (1) 11111 - is even(-numbered)
but it's not work ....

;) but intresting to search more in this direction
who can tell next prime number 1.............................11113
(must be even digit of "1")


thanks all
too sorry for mistake

Unregistered 2003-12-06 13:59

13

113

113*2+1 =
227
is Prime

11113

111111113

111111113*2+1 =
222222227
is Prime

then

111111113*2+1

MILLER-RABIN PRIMALITY TEST


222222227 =
222222227
is Prime

...

strange


2*prime+1 - high probability its prime!

Evgeny Dolgov 2003-12-06 14:18

(2^20,996,011)-1 - last known Mersenn prime number

20,996,011 - also PRIME NUMBER

intresting


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