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Steve One 2018-03-02 19:10

[QUOTE=science_man_88;481371]Math has well used definitions, axioms, and notation which is easier to understand for anyone deep into math.[/QUOTE]
Up to now with all the notation in the world, everybody has failed. I use numbers and ×, -, +, ÷ and succeed. Who wins? The fact that the 'private language' brigade doesn't like it, l think is quite sad.

science_man_88 2018-03-02 19:29

[QUOTE=Steve One;481381]Up to now with all the notation in the world, everybody has failed. I use numbers and ×, -, +, ÷ and succeed. Who wins? The fact that the 'private language' brigade doesn't like it, l think is quite sad.[/QUOTE]

It's not private it's notation [TEX]\prod[/TEX] is a product [TEX]\Sigma[/TEX] is a sum. If you know pedmas you know part of math language ( more generally convention). () Is used for functions and tup!es {} are for sets. Also plain language doesn't always convert well to math. Verbosity isn't a friend in communication usually.

VBCurtis 2018-03-02 19:48

[QUOTE=Steve One;481330]
This result if true but irrelevant, and higher numbers that stiil work, need explaining away as to why such huge numbers being divided and multiplied result in numbers that match desired result.[/QUOTE]

If you could write this in actual English, someone might be able to make sense of what you're trying to say. Typos matter, too: You said "if true but irrelevant", for instance.

Your tirade against standard math language is foolish; using more English and less math notation doesn't make your ideas new, merely unclear.

axn 2018-03-03 04:41

[QUOTE=Steve One;481381]Up to now with all the notation in the world, [B]everybody[/B] has failed.[/QUOTE]
Offtopic, but...
Has it occurred to you that if _everybody_ has failed to understand you, then maybe the problem is not with everybody, and the problem is with how you express your ideas?

Steve One 2018-03-03 12:42

[QUOTE=axn;481439]Offtopic, but...
Has it occurred to you that if _everybody_ has failed to understand you, then maybe the problem is not with everybody, and the problem is with how you express your ideas?[/QUOTE]
This is what l do know.
If l had said, "1,000,000 pounds to anyone who understands what is being said here", there would be lots of correct answers.
What l wrote originally, although written in basic language, serves the purpose just fine to get the point across. The answer is correct. That is what matters! Anybody's refusal to accept substance over style is as l said, quite sad.
What is difficult to understand from,.... primes from 7 up to 121(7 to 113) each minus 1), multiplied together,...divided by primes from 7 up to 121(7 to 113)...× (121squared minus1)/30,...that produces 210.02917, which is the number of primes on (1+n30) or 1, 31, 61, 91 etc. OR

6/7 × 10/11 × 12/13.......× (prime(n)minus 1)/prime(n) × (121squared minus 1)/30. Prime(n) equals prime before 121.
There is NOTHING wrong at all. And if a person cannot understand what is being said, which they could but don't want to, then that is sad.

Steve One 2018-03-03 12:43

[QUOTE=axn;481439]Offtopic, but...
Has it occurred to you that if _everybody_ has failed to understand you, then maybe the problem is not with everybody, and the problem is with how you express your ideas?[/QUOTE]
It has occurred, but l know that is not true. Desire, or the lack of, is the problem.

ET_ 2018-03-03 16:18

[QUOTE=Steve One;481456]I know that is not true. Desire, or the lack of, is the problem.[/QUOTE]

You said it. Now, reread what you just wrote slowly...

Steve One 2018-03-03 20:15

[QUOTE=ET_;481470]You said it. Now, reread what you just wrote slowly...[/QUOTE]
Nope! Don't get what you are saying.

CRGreathouse 2018-03-03 22:15

[QUOTE=Steve One;481456]It has occurred, but l know that is not true. Desire, or the lack of, is the problem.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ET_;481470]You said it. Now, reread what you just wrote slowly...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve One;481490]Nope! Don't get what you are saying.[/QUOTE]

I don't think anyone is surprised to hear that.

science_man_88 2018-03-03 22:44

[QUOTE=Steve One;481456]It has occurred, but l know that is not true. Desire, or the lack of, is the problem.[/QUOTE]

None lack a desire for math, some may have a desire towards concise, precise, and accurate math though. Your lack of desire to put it in that form may be a hurdle.


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